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Old 10-08-2006, 11:26 PM
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I guess I will be honest. I'm very self-conscious in all black social environments. I have no idea how to interact. When you've been the token almost everywhere since you were a young kid, it's actually easy to get used to it.
you know, i have been in situations where ive gotten comfortable being the token, especially at parties and social events. honestly, it would be like a united colors of benetton advertisement, with your (token) asian, black, spanish person. then you get a racially ambiguous person or two, maybe a gay or indian person...

point is, ive been the only "one" in the bar and it can be uncomfortable and such, but come on, sometimes bars have the best deals, like dollar beer night (if youre in NYC, holla at me at Off the Wagon on Mondays) or quarter pitcher night (Wednesdays at Town Tavern). i have learned to like bars, but its not my preference of hangout spots.

some nights im in the mood for a bar, to just sit and have a drink. sure, i can do away with the smoke (i HATE cig smoke, but since NY has no more smoking in bars, dont have to worry anymore. and it irks me when i go out of town and am in a smoky bar) but some nights, i dont want to do the loud music/dance thing.

also in nyc, the lines of bar/restaurant/lounge are blurred, which can be a good thing if you wanna get your dance on one minute and then next just wanna sit down and knock one back.
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Old 10-09-2006, 11:22 AM
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Ugh @ people typing "token" and meaning it.
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Old 10-09-2006, 10:51 PM
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Ugh @ people typing "token" and meaning it.
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Old 10-09-2006, 11:24 PM
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Well, "token" is a derogatory reference but being the only black person in most settings (educational, professional, or social) doesn't automatically make you a token unless THEY make you the token.
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Old 10-10-2006, 11:05 PM
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Well, "token" is a derogatory reference but being the only black person in most settings (educational, professional, or social) doesn't automatically make you a token unless THEY make you the token.
hmm. a lot of terms are derogatory until you reclaim the phrase... at school we threw it around as such, like "look at us token [fill in the blank] folks." even white students threw it around, like, "yeah im the token white kid from burbs"

youre right, youre only a token if they make you one. and yes, ive been the said token in educational, professional, AND social settings, but not just for being black, but for being female, for being young, etc...
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Old 10-11-2006, 12:59 PM
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youre right, youre only a token if they make you one.
Right.
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Old 10-09-2006, 10:32 PM
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you know, i have been in situations where ive gotten comfortable being the token, especially at parties and social events.
Yeah, that was my grad school experience, and therefore my professional experience, in a nutshell. I can't wait to meet another black person who does what I do. I've met a few engineers who do similar things...close, but no cigar.

I prefer bars to clubs. I went to the 4040 club here in NYC a few weeks ago, and I was booooored. I'm not that much of a dancer. I would rather sit with some friends drinking beers and watching the Red Sox than dancing any day.
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