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Old 10-05-2006, 02:07 AM
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However, and maybe Opi can chime in here... what is one to think about Islam when the final words of Mohammed to his disciples was, "I was ordered to fight all men until they say, "There is no god but Allah."

Perhaps I'm not reading these quotes correctly, but it doesn't seem like a faith of tolerance and peace. Opi.. could you please clarify?
Maybe you aren't understand correctly, but _Opi_ already said that she would not answer you, so please quit badgering her about answering your questions.

I'm going to say it, time and time again...if you want the answers to your question, actually go out, do some research, take a class, talk to a sheik (that's what they are called right?).

Besides, "fight" does not always mean "coming to blows" or any physical violence. For all we know, back when Mohammed said it, he could have meant something totally different.

Like others have mentioned, there are passages in the Bible that are pretty questionable now, but that is because we put our own little "twisted" spin on it.
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Old 10-05-2006, 02:11 AM
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Maybe you aren't understand correctly, but _Opi_ already said that she would not answer you, so please quit badgering her about answering your questions.
Badgering. Wouldn't that be considered harassment?
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Old 10-05-2006, 02:14 AM
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Badgering. Wouldn't that be considered harassment?

As a matter of fact, it does. According to http://www.dictionary.com, it says:

badg·er·ing
To harass or pester persistently.

See Synonyms at harass.

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Old 10-05-2006, 07:58 AM
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Maybe you aren't understand correctly, but _Opi_ already said that she would not answer you, so please quit badgering her about answering your questions.

I'm going to say it, time and time again...if you want the answers to your question, actually go out, do some research, take a class, talk to a sheik (that's what they are called right?).

Besides, "fight" does not always mean "coming to blows" or any physical violence. For all we know, back when Mohammed said it, he could have meant something totally different.

Like others have mentioned, there are passages in the Bible that are pretty questionable now, but that is because we put our own little "twisted" spin on it.
Maybe YOU don't understand. I cut and pasted this from another thread for one of the posters who asked about it. I am not pressing Opi, because she has made it clear she will not answer my questions in detail.

And yes, I do agree that "fight" may not necessarily mean "come to blows" which is why I am asking for someone who is Muslim to clarify for me. So far, nobody has stepped up. Why? There never seems to be a shortage of Christians who are willing to clarify verses in the New Testament.
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Old 10-05-2006, 08:02 AM
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which is why I am asking for someone who is Muslim to clarify for me. So far, nobody has stepped up. Why? There never seems to be a shortage of Christians who are willing to clarify verses in the New Testament.
Last time I checked, the official Muslim spokesperson is not a member of GC, unless I missed their thread somewhere.

Just because there's Christians who are willing to "clarify" things doesn't mean that a) they should; b) they're correct; or c) that they have ANY idea of what they're talking about. It's nice that the Muslim GC members have more sense than that.

If you'd like to learn more about the Muslim culture and teachings, do your own research and stop demanding that others educate you. You alone are responsible for your own learning.
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Old 10-05-2006, 08:06 AM
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Last time I checked, the official Muslim spokesperson is not a member of GC, unless I missed their thread somewhere.

Just because there's Christians who are willing to "clarify" things doesn't mean that a) they should; b) they're correct; or c) that they have ANY idea of what they're talking about. It's nice that the Muslim GC members have more sense than that.

If you'd like to learn more about the Muslim culture and teachings, do your own research and stop demanding that others educate you. You alone are responsible for your own learning.
This is a discussion board last that I checked. Is Opi immune from defending her statements in her first post? Afterall, she brought religion into the news media coverage of the hijacking, and it is she who is making a premise that she does't seem to be able to defend.
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Old 10-05-2006, 08:08 AM
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This is a discussion board last that I checked. Is Opi immune from defending her statements in her first post? Afterall, she brought religion into the news media coverage of the hijacking, and it is she who is making a premise that she does't seem to be able to defend.
Perhaps if you had asked nicely she would have responded.
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Old 10-05-2006, 08:35 AM
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Perhaps if you had asked nicely she would have responded.
Kind of an interesting thing to say when you upset Opi with this exchange:

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Your tone makes it sound like you're trying to start some sort of race/religion debate here or put words in people's mouths.

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It's not a race debate, it is a religious one. If you don't like this discussion, you don't have to respond. But if you didn't notice, there is another thread about "radical islam". So religious threads are plenty in GC.
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Old 10-05-2006, 08:39 AM
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Kind of an interesting thing to say when you upset Opi with this exchange:
I'm not the one demanding information from her.

And why are you speaking as to how Opi feels, since you're not her?
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Old 10-05-2006, 10:31 AM
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Last time I checked, the official Muslim spokesperson is not a member of GC, unless I missed their thread somewhere.

Just because there's Christians who are willing to "clarify" things doesn't mean that a) they should; b) they're correct; or c) that they have ANY idea of what they're talking about. It's nice that the Muslim GC members have more sense than that.

If you'd like to learn more about the Muslim culture and teachings, do your own research and stop demanding that others educate you. You alone are responsible for your own learning.
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Old 10-05-2006, 10:51 AM
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:42 PM
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Just because there's Christians who are willing to "clarify" things doesn't mean that a) they should; b) they're correct; or c) that they have ANY idea of what they're talking about. It's nice that the Muslim GC members have more sense than that.
It's pretty clear that no one is a spokesperson for the religion or its doctrine.

With that said, there are probably just fewer GC Muslims than there are GC Christians who post regularly. This difference in numbers changes the odds/probability of such questions being answered. It isn't necessarily about "having more sense than that" () because I know at least a couple GC Muslims who do answer such questions on message boards whenever they have time on their hands and/or feel like being bothered with educating people.
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Old 10-05-2006, 01:08 PM
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Maybe YOU don't understand. I cut and pasted this from another thread for one of the posters who asked about it. I am not pressing Opi, because she has made it clear she will not answer my questions in detail.
Wow - she totally blew you out, my friend.

Opi and I don't exactly get along, but she not only made your "quotations" look idiotic, but addressed all of your concerns completely. Read -> comprehend -> post?
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