Christian terrorists hijack a plane

[epchick]

Originally Posted by blueangel

I knew six people in the World Trade Center.. and one on the Pennsylvania airplane that crashed on 911, so I think I know what "violence" and "terrorism" is.

OMG!! buy a ladder and GET OVER yourself!


Just because you knew people who died, does not mean you have exclusive knowledge on what violence or terrorism is. We all were witness to 9/11, I might not have had anyone who died in the WTC or on United 93, but I can assume I know what violence and terrorism is.

Your not all high and mighty, so get down off of that high horse. FORGET ABOUT YOUR OTHER THREAD, as many people have tried to mention to you, _opi_ is not going to give you an answer, so stop fishing around for it in other threads.

Originally Posted by blueangel

She got extremely defensive about those quotes.. as are you. Why? Those quotes were in the Islamic holy book. I did not make them up. I even asked her to explain to me what they meant and whether they were mistranslated. They describe how those of the Islamic faith are commanded to convert everyone to Islam, and if they don't.. to fight them. It's right there in black and white.

The crux of this is that there is a Jihad declared against all non-Muslims.... just as Hitler declared a Jihad against all Jews. He got plenty of press too... and he wasn't Muslim. If there was a holy war against the Muslims, I'm sure those causing the violence against the Islamic community would get lots of press too.

Hitler got attention because he killed millions and millions of Jews!!!

You seriously don't even know the meaning of the word Jihad. You "assume" that because there is a terrorist organization out there called "jihad" or what not, that anything with the word jihad is bad. TAKE A FREAKING CLASS, AND LEARN SOMETHING!! seriously.

You need to get over the fact that Muslims are not the only "terrorists," and realize that Christianity has a few terrorist organizations out there too.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by epchick

Your not all high and mighty, so get down off of that high horse. FORGET ABOUT YOUR OTHER THREAD, as many people have tried to mention to you, _opi_ is not going to give you an answer, so stop fishing around for it in other threads.

I was wondering what blueangel was talking about. I couldn't find his/her Q'uran post anywhere in this thread.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I was wondering what blueangel was talking about. I couldn't find his/her Q'uran post anywhere in this thread.

I think its in the one about Radical Islam....she posted 3 "quotes" from the Q'uran that she got off the internet and pretty much harassed _Opi_ to give her an explanation about them.

[Drolefille]

I think that if Americans gave 2 shits about anything not involving the USA, we would have heard about this story. The Daily Show did a gag showing the covers of all the international Newsweeks, with the US one. On all but the US cover the story was "Losing Afghanistan?" On the US edition, the cover was "My Life in Pictures" Welcome to the attention span of the American public.

That said, I do not think the two actions (9/11 hijacking and this hijacking) are comparable. If anything, this the equivalent to taking a hostage, something that happened in Amish country, in Iraq and in several other places over the past weeks.

I think the major difference in why some people call for Muslims to "speak out" is because of the reasons for the violence. To clarify:

If a Muslim blows himself up for his twisted views of jihad and Allah's will, and is supported by other people using "Allah" as a justification, it makes it seem like the religion approves of this.

If a Christian attacks a school house full of children and does not do so "in God's name" then his religion is not being held accountable for his actions. If he did say "this is God's will" and his church condemn's him for it, again only he is accountable for his actions.

I say all this knowing that the vast majority of Muslims are no more violent than I am.

Also, take into consideration the number of Catholics who are called upon to defend/denounce the actions of priests, the pope, etc. and all Benedict did was quote a dead guy. (He had a good point, but he should have totally known better) It's not just Muslims who are being called to denounce those who harm their religion.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I think that if Americans gave 2 shits about anything not involving the USA, we would have heard about this story. The Daily Show did a gag showing the covers of all the international Newsweeks, with the US one. On all but the US cover the story was "Losing Afghanistan?" On the US edition, the cover was "My Life in Pictures" Welcome to the attention span of the American public.

Very true but "involving the USA" is relative.

A lot of the things going on the Middle East aren't directly involving the USA but Americans make it their business to know about them and/or intervene somehow. All in the name of "fighting terrorism." They need to edit that to say all in the name of "fighting terrorism that may or may not have a trickle down effect on the US. We can never be sure so we need to keep a close watch on THOSE PEOPLE."

[shinerbock]

I really haven't heard calls for violence from Catholics or Protestants lately.

[greekalum]

I take it you haven't been listening to Fred Phelps, Randall Terry, or Eric Rudolph lately, then.