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10-04-2006, 09:15 AM
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Had the hijacking resulted in the plane slamming into a building killing all aboard as well as nearly 3,000 innocent civilians, I think that would have made more of a news impact.
Had this been part of an organized "Jihad" called by extremist Christians against all non-Christians then yeah.. you would have a point. But, this isn't the case. There is no "Christian Jihad".. however there is an extremist Muslim Jihad against non-Muslims.
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It's called the Crusade. There are still Christians who cause violence in the Middle East, but they usually loose, because they are the minority. But there was a very active Crusade back in the day, because that is where Christianity was during its devolpement. Islam today is in a simillar state. But to cliam there is organized violence by Christians against non-Christians is erronerous.
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10-04-2006, 10:39 AM
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It's called the Crusade. There are still Christians who cause violence in the Middle East, but they usually loose, because they are the minority. But there was a very active Crusade back in the day, because that is where Christianity was during its devolpement. Islam today is in a simillar state. But to cliam there is organized violence by Christians against non-Christians is erronerous.
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Yes there was a crusade, and it was wrong.. just as Nazi Germany was also an organized extermination of another religion, and it was wrong.... just as the Islamic Terrorist "Jihad" is an organized extermination of all non Muslims. What is extremely disturbing are those passages in the Islamic holy book that I quoted to Opi urging Muslims to fight all non-muslims.
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10-04-2006, 10:43 AM
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What is extremely disturbing are those passages in the Islamic holy book that I quoted to Opi urging Muslims to fight all non-muslims.
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If the Q'uran does have passages such as this, what is the relevance of this for this topic?
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10-04-2006, 10:46 AM
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If the Q'uran does have passages such as this, what is the relevance of this for this topic?
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Because Opi is saying there is a double standard.. but there isn't. She's comparing apples and oranges. There is a Jihad against non-Muslims as urged by the Islamic holy book.
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10-04-2006, 11:08 AM
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10-04-2006, 11:12 AM
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Because Opi is saying there is a double standard.. but there isn't. She's comparing apples and oranges. There is a Jihad against non-Muslims as urged by the Islamic holy book.
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There is a double standard but it works both ways. On one end, Islam has been given a negative image to the point where "terrorism" is synonymous with "Islam" these days. Therefore, other terrorist acts aren't viewed in the same light. Even an attempted hijacking by an Islamic person would've been perceived as a big deal in light of world events. The same attempt by a nonMuslim should also be a big deal because anything can be a precursor of things to come---which is what we learned with the govt. coverups and events preceeding 9/11. If those feisty Christians act out again, maybe it will be taken more seriously.
I won't get into the other side of the double standard because it has absolutely nothing to do with this topic.
A Jihad is really a holy war waged on behalf of Islam as a religious duty; : a personal struggle in devotion to Islam especially involving spiritual discipline
: a crusade for a principle or belief. So, it seems that holy war is interpreted by the extremist members of the faith differently than the Q'uran urges it. Similar to how some Christian extremists interpret "Christian soldiers" and other "battle" and "spiritual warfare" references to be something that it is not.
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10-04-2006, 11:16 AM
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Because Opi is saying there is a double standard.. but there isn't. She's comparing apples and oranges. There is a Jihad against non-Muslims as urged by the Islamic holy book.
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YOU are the one comparing apples to oranges here - a double standard for reporting can exist outside of comparable events. You do not need a "Christian WTC attack" to have a double standard. Regardless of your other points, until you can get past your own bias to see this, nothing you write will make sense.
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10-05-2006, 02:57 AM
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There is a Jihad against non-Muslims as urged by the Islamic holy book.
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No it does not. Please stop slandering a Holy Book that you have never read.
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10-04-2006, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by blueangel
Yes there was a crusade, and it was wrong.. just as Nazi Germany was also an organized extermination of another religion, and it was wrong.... just as the Islamic Terrorist "Jihad" is an organized extermination of all non Muslims. What is extremely disturbing are those passages in the Islamic holy book that I quoted to Opi urging Muslims to fight all non-muslims.
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The crusade wasn't magically called off and not every muslim is part of the Jihad. Everytime an abortion doctor is threatened, it is act of some one who sees himself as a CRUSADER and the rest of him call him a CHRISTIAN TERRORIST because that is what he really is.
I'm going out on a little bit of limb, but according to my good friend (who is muslim) there are NO calls to violence against non-Muslims in the Koran. (whatever spelling you like)
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10-05-2006, 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by blueangel
Yes there was a crusade, and it was wrong.. just as Nazi Germany was also an organized extermination of another religion, and it was wrong.... just as the Islamic Terrorist "Jihad" is an organized extermination of all non Muslims. What is extremely disturbing are those passages in the Islamic holy book that I quoted to Opi urging Muslims to fight all non-muslims.
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How do you leave your home everyday? If I thought there was a mass Jihad going on, I would not dare step out of my house.
As for organized? How so? Muslims in Iraq are killing each other. I would hardly call that organized. Please explain your understanding of world politics so we can understand where you are coming from.
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