Christian terrorists hijack a plane - Page 2

DSTCHAOS · #1 10-04-2006, 10:40 AM

What are people debating and why?

Just admit that there are different forms of terrorism, and that the media has given people a certain image of terrorism, and be done with it. Geesh.

epchick · #2 10-04-2006, 01:28 PM

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I knew six people in the World Trade Center.. and one on the Pennsylvania airplane that crashed on 911, so I think I know what "violence" and "terrorism" is.

OMG!! buy a ladder and GET OVER yourself!

Just because you knew people who died, does not mean you have exclusive knowledge on what violence or terrorism is. We all were witness to 9/11, I might not have had anyone who died in the WTC or on United 93, but I can assume I know what violence and terrorism is.

Your not all high and mighty, so get down off of that high horse. FORGET ABOUT YOUR OTHER THREAD, as many people have tried to mention to you, _opi_ is not going to give you an answer, so stop fishing around for it in other threads.

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She got extremely defensive about those quotes.. as are you. Why? Those quotes were in the Islamic holy book. I did not make them up. I even asked her to explain to me what they meant and whether they were mistranslated. They describe how those of the Islamic faith are commanded to convert everyone to Islam, and if they don't.. to fight them. It's right there in black and white.

The crux of this is that there is a Jihad declared against all non-Muslims.... just as Hitler declared a Jihad against all Jews. He got plenty of press too... and he wasn't Muslim. If there was a holy war against the Muslims, I'm sure those causing the violence against the Islamic community would get lots of press too.

Hitler got attention because he killed millions and millions of Jews!!!

You seriously don't even know the meaning of the word Jihad. You "assume" that because there is a terrorist organization out there called "jihad" or what not, that anything with the word jihad is bad. TAKE A FREAKING CLASS, AND LEARN SOMETHING!! seriously.

You need to get over the fact that Muslims are not the only "terrorists," and realize that Christianity has a few terrorist organizations out there too.

DSTCHAOS · #3 10-04-2006, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by epchick

Your not all high and mighty, so get down off of that high horse. FORGET ABOUT YOUR OTHER THREAD, as many people have tried to mention to you, _opi_ is not going to give you an answer, so stop fishing around for it in other threads.

I was wondering what blueangel was talking about. I couldn't find his/her Q'uran post anywhere in this thread.

_Opi_ · #4 10-05-2006, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by blueangel

If there was a holy war against the Muslims, I'm sure those causing the violence against the Islamic community would get lots of press too.

Actually, there is no holy war against muslims in America. Just hate crimes. There's been attacks on mosques, individuals and death threats. Hardly any press coverage.

blueangel · #5 10-05-2006, 08:02 AM

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Actually, there is no holy war against muslims in America. Just hate crimes. There's been attacks on mosques, individuals and death threats. Hardly any press coverage.

Yes, there has been violence on Muslims, just as there has been violence on Buddhists, Christians, and Jews. Are you saying there are Christian, Buddhist or Jewish cells and training camps which are organized against Muslims? Are you denying there are no Muslim cells, networks and training camps organized against non-Muslims?

RU OX Alum · #6 10-04-2006, 09:15 AM

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Had the hijacking resulted in the plane slamming into a building killing all aboard as well as nearly 3,000 innocent civilians, I think that would have made more of a news impact.

Had this been part of an organized "Jihad" called by extremist Christians against all non-Christians then yeah.. you would have a point. But, this isn't the case. There is no "Christian Jihad".. however there is an extremist Muslim Jihad against non-Muslims.

It's called the Crusade. There are still Christians who cause violence in the Middle East, but they usually loose, because they are the minority. But there was a very active Crusade back in the day, because that is where Christianity was during its devolpement. Islam today is in a simillar state. But to cliam there is organized violence by Christians against non-Christians is erronerous.

blueangel · #7 10-04-2006, 10:39 AM

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It's called the Crusade. There are still Christians who cause violence in the Middle East, but they usually loose, because they are the minority. But there was a very active Crusade back in the day, because that is where Christianity was during its devolpement. Islam today is in a simillar state. But to cliam there is organized violence by Christians against non-Christians is erronerous.

Yes there was a crusade, and it was wrong.. just as Nazi Germany was also an organized extermination of another religion, and it was wrong.... just as the Islamic Terrorist "Jihad" is an organized extermination of all non Muslims. What is extremely disturbing are those passages in the Islamic holy book that I quoted to Opi urging Muslims to fight all non-muslims.

DSTCHAOS · #8 10-04-2006, 10:43 AM

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What is extremely disturbing are those passages in the Islamic holy book that I quoted to Opi urging Muslims to fight all non-muslims.

If the Q'uran does have passages such as this, what is the relevance of this for this topic?

blueangel · #9 10-04-2006, 10:46 AM

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If the Q'uran does have passages such as this, what is the relevance of this for this topic?

Because Opi is saying there is a double standard.. but there isn't. She's comparing apples and oranges. There is a Jihad against non-Muslims as urged by the Islamic holy book.

RU OX Alum · #10 10-04-2006, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by blueangel

Yes there was a crusade, and it was wrong.. just as Nazi Germany was also an organized extermination of another religion, and it was wrong.... just as the Islamic Terrorist "Jihad" is an organized extermination of all non Muslims. What is extremely disturbing are those passages in the Islamic holy book that I quoted to Opi urging Muslims to fight all non-muslims.

The crusade wasn't magically called off and not every muslim is part of the Jihad. Everytime an abortion doctor is threatened, it is act of some one who sees himself as a CRUSADER and the rest of him call him a CHRISTIAN TERRORIST because that is what he really is.

I'm going out on a little bit of limb, but according to my good friend (who is muslim) there are NO calls to violence against non-Muslims in the Koran. (whatever spelling you like)

_Opi_ · #11 10-05-2006, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by blueangel

Yes there was a crusade, and it was wrong.. just as Nazi Germany was also an organized extermination of another religion, and it was wrong.... just as the Islamic Terrorist "Jihad" is an organized extermination of all non Muslims. What is extremely disturbing are those passages in the Islamic holy book that I quoted to Opi urging Muslims to fight all non-muslims.

How do you leave your home everyday? If I thought there was a mass Jihad going on, I would not dare step out of my house.

As for organized? How so? Muslims in Iraq are killing each other. I would hardly call that organized. Please explain your understanding of world politics so we can understand where you are coming from.