Little Problem

[33girl]

Originally Posted by blueangel

I will agree with that advice, 33 Girl ONLY if he has objections to being in the midst of religion. Some atheists do, and that's their right. For instance.. there are some atheists who object to pubic prayer at a town council meeting. They either come a few minutes later, or they walk out of the room during the prayer.

If, however.. it's not a big deal to him as it isn't to some atheists.. he can respectfully stand while others pray... if they do. Or listen to bible quotes.. if they read them.

It really depends on how he feels about it.

Well, that's what I mean. He can get an answer and then decide for himself. But he needs to get a straight answer, and he can only get that by being straight himself.

And I think "spiritually centered" is one of those phrases that can mean so many things, it basically means nothing - which is why I don't think he should use it.

[blueangel]

The only reason I said "it depends" -- is if he really doesn't care if his fraternity prays or reads from the bible.. then why make an issue of it?

But again.. if he feels strongly about it then yes, I would agree your route is the best to take.

Actually, "spiritually centered" does mean something. It means you believe in goodness and lead a "centered" life towards it.. whether that is through humanitarianism, through a higher power, or both. But you're right, it's a very broad term.

[Adelphean]

Keep your mouth shut (at least until after you're intiated) and enjoy the time with your new brothers.

[alum]

I'm going to ask the same question:

If belief in a religious what-have-you is central to membership to a GLO, why on earth would that be not brought up before bids are offered? Otherwise it would seem to be a waste of time for both the GLO and the PNM.

[SouthernSweet]

Originally Posted by alum

I'm going to ask the same question:

if belief in a religious what-have-you is central to membership to a GLO, why on earth would that be not brought up before bids are offered? Otherwise it would seem to be a waste of time for both the GLO and the PNM.

It's not....and that is part of the problem. Some Greek organization's history and traditions are more infiltrated into scripture than others...and you are right...without breaking any ritual secrets...at a minimum, to WHAT degree they are involved, should at least be mentioned.

[Azalin]

Wow, thanks for the replies, everyone.

I attended a catholic high school for four years, and I cooperated with morning prayer, mass, etc. I don't have a problem with their beliefs, but I guess it'll be up to the fraternity to decide. I'll tell them tomorrow when I get back to school.

[AOIIBrandi]

My opinion is that if you don't have a problem cooperating then I don't see any reason the fraternity really needs to know.

Nobody ever said you had to believe everything you hear or say for that matter. I don't know if your fraternity is based in christianity or not (most are I believe) but as long as you uphold the core values (brotherhood, friendship - whatever they are) no one will know you're just going through the motions during any religious parts that may come up. I don't think any of us believe that we are in church, although we do take it seriously, when we meet with our GLOs even if it is for ritual.

[qwerty08642]

Originally Posted by Adelphean

Keep your mouth shut (at least until after you're intiated) and enjoy the time with your new brothers.

I beg to differ. Fraternities have these rules for a reason. If you are an atheist and a fraternity has a rule against athiests,
1) you will have to lie to join and
2) you won't like what you find on the inside after you've joined.

[ThetaPrincess24]

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