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Old 09-08-2006, 11:51 PM
tunatartare tunatartare is offline
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It depends on the fraternity. If it's Kappa Sigma, then you have to decline a bid. In Kappa Sigma, it is a requirement that you believe in some form of religious deity/higher being. If it's not, then I say go for it. If you're still uncomfortable with it, talk to the president/pledgemaster about it, or it may not be the fraternity for you after all.
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Old 09-11-2006, 09:51 AM
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It depends on the fraternity. If it's Kappa Sigma, then you have to decline a bid. In Kappa Sigma, it is a requirement that you believe in some form of religious deity/higher being. If it's not, then I say go for it. If you're still uncomfortable with it, talk to the president/pledgemaster about it, or it may not be the fraternity for you after all.
Not even touching the accuracy or inaccuracy of that statement, I'm going to say this in the nicest way possible; please don't speak for my fraternity. You're not a member, and you can't speak for how things are done nationally or on a particular campus.

If the fraternity is Kappa Sig (or any other, for that matter), talk to the brothers in the chapter and explain the situation.

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Old 09-03-2009, 07:17 PM
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It depends on the fraternity. If it's Kappa Sigma, then you have to decline a bid. In Kappa Sigma, it is a requirement that you believe in some form of religious deity/higher being. If it's not, then I say go for it. If you're still uncomfortable with it, talk to the president/pledgemaster about it, or it may not be the fraternity for you after all.
This is correct. And a dispute over this rule was the basis of a dispute between the national fraternity and its Stanford chapter. You can read about this in the New York Times at:
http://tinyurl.com/noksigatheists
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Old 09-22-2009, 05:01 AM
DartmouthPanhel DartmouthPanhel is offline
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I know it's too late but...

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This is correct. And a dispute over this rule was the basis of a dispute between the national fraternity and its Stanford chapter. You can read about this in the New York Times at:
http://tinyurl.com/noksigatheists

I know the OP is 3 years old, but I'll say it anyway:

Most, if not all, GLOs would have a problem with a chapter taking it upon themselves to change ritual or a ceremony like initiation.

Insisting on reading religious content in a ceremony DOES NOT EQUAL expelling members who are atheists.

The religious themes of ceremony/ritual have been a common theme in NPC discussions with various GLOs, but generally the cons for changing ritual (and getting rid of religious references) has to do with honoring tradition, not violating freedom of religion.

Poor Kappa Sig. If someone came on GC and listed all the GLOs with ceremonies based on or including Judeo-Christian ideology whose nationals ask them to perform them as written, you'd have a list a mile long. If this is your issue (and I'm not saying it shouldn't be) take it up with the Greek System in general, because it's far more prevalent than just one GLO.

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