Katrina, and the UN

[Kevin]

That could have just as easily been out of the Onion.

Insane. The UN never gets tired of biting the hand that feeds them.

[shinerbock]

at least the onion is funny

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

at least the onion is funny

So is the U.N.

[macallan25]

What an insanely idiotic article. Jesus Christ the UN is such a joke.

[f8nacn]

From reading the article it just expressed the UN's findings after being asked to review the circumstances during and after the events of Hurricane Katrina. Only people who have NO heart would say that the article was completely IDIOTIC! What if you were in that situation, how would feel if you weren't provided with the basic privilege of being able to leave your home! We have so much to say about blacks and poor people without walking in their shoes for a day!

All the UN can do is make a recommendation or suggestion (as stated by the article) - they can't force or MAKE the US do anything.

And in what way is the UN biting the hand that is feeding them! Personally, I definitely disagree.

[Kevin]

I'd think to myself... gosh.. if I hadn't dropped out of high school and had 5 babies so I could receive extra TANF benefits, I might have been able to afford a car and get out of here.

Or something to that effect.

Poverty is a choice. Sure, some because of their backgrounds are at a huge disadvantage, but there is still every opportunity for success. If you spend your entire life expecting somoene else to provide for you, from time to time, you'll be let down.

[f8nacn]

And just how ignorant are you! You are casting generalizations that are not entirely true for an entire community/people. We don't know individual circumstances of "all people"....you can't cast judgment on things that you have know knowledge about.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by ktsnake

Poverty is a choice. Sure, some because of their backgrounds are at a huge disadvantage, but there is still every opportunity for success. If you spend your entire life expecting somoene else to provide for you, from time to time, you'll be let down.

That's a harsh statement. There may be every opportunity for success in some places, but come to Michigan and see how many of these opportunities there are. But I do agree with your last sentence.

[DeltAlum]

Originally Posted by ktsnake

Poverty is a choice. Sure, some because of their backgrounds are at a huge disadvantage, but there is still every opportunity for success. If you spend your entire life expecting somoene else to provide for you, from time to time, you'll be let down.

It is a harsh statement, but there's also an element of truth.

Some people are born into bad situations, but they can often be overcome.

Some people are born into great wealth and status and don't take advantage of it.

Some from both sides expect to be taken care of. Sometimes it doesn't happen.

[macallan25]

No, I don't have a heart for lazy, ignorant people that stayed in New Orleans in their shanties after being continuously warned that the hurricane had reached catastrophic proportions. Then, when their lives were destroyed by the worst natural disaster in US history.....they take the easy cop out and blame Bush or the US Government instead of looking at their own mayor and governor whom didn't provide for a mandatory evacuation until 19 hours before landfall and didn't fix the inaduquate levees which caused 80% flooding in the city, even though civil engineers had warned them in 1986 that a massive hurrincane would render them useless.

Originally Posted by f8nacn

From reading the article it just expressed the UN's findings after being asked to review the circumstances during and after the events of Hurricane Katrina. Only people who have NO heart would say that the article was completely IDIOTIC! What if you were in that situation, how would feel if you weren't provided with the basic privilege of being able to leave your home! We have so much to say about blacks and poor people without walking in their shoes for a day!

All the UN can do is make a recommendation or suggestion (as stated by the article) - they can't force or MAKE the US do anything.

And in what way is the UN biting the hand that is feeding them! Personally, I definitely disagree.

[f8nacn]

Originally Posted by macallan25

No, I don't have a heart for lazy, ignorant people that stayed in New Orleans in their shanties after being continuously warned that the hurricane had reached catastrophic proportions. Then, when their lives were destroyed by the worst natural disaster in US history.....they take the easy cop out and blame Bush or the US Government instead of looking at their own mayor and governor whom didn't provide for a mandatory evacuation until 19 hours before landfall and didn't fix the inaduquate levees which caused 80% flooding in the city, even though civil engineers had warned them in 1986 that a massive hurrincane would render them useless.

I do agree with you that the blame and anger was cast on President Bush without looking at the immediate persons in charge (i.e., Mayor and Governor); however, I will not chastise a group of people with limited access to funds, transportation, etc. I will not call them ignorant or any derogatory name that I've witnessed from others. No one knows the circumstances and what TRULY went on despite what the media portrays! I guess would have confidence in my leaders if they have provided a place of shelter (i.e., the superdome, convention center, etc.,) that those places will be just that, a means for me to escape without leaving the city. They had confidence that they would be safe there...it turns out it was quite the contrary....yet that is known looking back, not when faced with difficult decisions. How many of us would willing leave our homes, our tradition, our heritage? Most of us would wait or even attempt to ride it out because we don't want to leave that which we value.