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AKΨ_BRO@DSU · #**166** 07-19-2006, 05:21 PM

Like I said before, I'm sure there's something about everyone's partner they wish that they could change. The fact that you stay with them regardless of the habit proves that you accept the person but just not fully the habit. Naturally, you're just going to look out for your partner on things that you feel may be harmful to them because you care about the person. It probably would even be that big of a problem unless the habit out out of hand or it did turn into a "nagging every 5 minutes" thing. Just both sides have to understand where the other person is coming from

Oh and here's more:

http://www.jrussellshealth.com/alcohol.html

valkyrie · #**167** 07-19-2006, 05:23 PM

Are you June Russell? It all makes so much sense now.

AKΨ_BRO@DSU · #**168** 07-19-2006, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by valkyrie

But see "Alcohol and Health."

Ok, I read it and yes there are some positive affects to alcohol (which I never denied) but that still does not negate the fact that there are more negative affects than positive.

GeekyPenguin · #**169** 07-19-2006, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AKΨ_BRO@DSU

Like I said before, I'm sure there's something about everyone's partner they wish that they could change. The fact that you stay with them regardless of the habit proves that you accept the person but just not fully the habit. Naturally, you're just going to look out for your partner on things that you feel may be harmful to them because you care about the person. It probably would even be that big of a problem unless the habit out out of hand or it did turn into a "nagging every 5 minutes" thing. Just both sides have to understand where the other person is coming from

Oh and here's more:

http://www.jrussellshealth.com/alcohol.html

That lady is NOT A DOCTOR.

AKΨ_BRO@DSU · #**170** 07-19-2006, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by valkyrie

Are you June Russell? It all makes so much sense now.

C'mon, now you're just arguing to be arguing.

AKΨ_BRO@DSU · #**171** 07-19-2006, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin

That lady is NOT A DOCTOR.

Oh ok, so now she has to be a doctor to be a credible source?! It gives you her background on the home page. Seriously...

valkyrie · #**172** 07-19-2006, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AKΨ_BRO@DSU

C'mon, now you're just arguing to be arguing.

No seriously. You sign up and start this thread and then when asked for authority you post some lady's website. This is compelling circumstantial evidence that you ARE said lady. I bet nobody here has ever seen you and June Russell together. HAVE THEY?!

kddani · #**173** 07-19-2006, 05:29 PM

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Oh ok, so now she has to be a doctor to be a credible source?! It gives you her background on the home page. Seriously...

The webpage itself isn't credible. It's unprofessional and she's unknown. She could've pulled those quotes out of her behind or extracted them in a way that's misleading. How about some credible, primary sources?

AKΨ_BRO@DSU · #**174** 07-19-2006, 05:31 PM

LOL, boy great way to try to ruin a thread...by accusing me of being alcohol researcher. I'm not going to even entertain this, but I will continue debating with you on the initial topic.

AKΨ_BRO@DSU · #**175** 07-19-2006, 05:31 PM

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The webpage itself isn't credible. It's unprofessional and she's unknown. She could've pulled those quotes out of her behind or extracted them in a way that's misleading. How about some credible, primary sources?

That's why she lists her sources right on the home page as well?

KSig RC · #**176** 07-19-2006, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AKΨ_BRO@DSU

Ok, I read it and yes there are some positive affects to alcohol (which I never denied) but that still does not negate the fact that there are more negative affects than positive.

"more negative than positive"?

Holy crap dude . . . first of all 'more' is not a good term here. Are you listing them numerically (ie there's a higher quantity of 'bad' than 'good')?

Do you have some sort of system to calculate 'total health'?

Can you definitively tell me that any, say, heart effects are more than offset by additional adipose tissue and the potential for slight autoimmune suppression?

Have you ever taken an econ class? Can you tell me the personal utility one might gain from alcohol consumption doesn't outweigh the factors you're considering negative?

Quantifying 'good' vs. 'bad' here is pretty much retarded.

Also, why so much hate for these things? Do you drive a car, or eat red meat? Everything is bad for you, dude - pick your battles, but realize they're YOUR battles.

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That's why she lists her sources right on the home page as well?

Dani actually addressed this point . . . citation != credibility automatically.

Marie · #**177** 07-19-2006, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by valkyrie

No seriously. You sign up and start this thread and then when asked for authority you post some lady's website. This is compelling circumstantial evidence that you ARE said lady. I bet nobody here has ever seen you and June Russell together. HAVE THEY?!

LOL!!!!

AKΨ_BRO@DSU · #**178** 07-19-2006, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC

"more negative than positive"?

Holy crap dude . . . first of all 'more' is not a good term here. Are you listing them numerically (ie there's a higher quantity of 'bad' than 'good')?

Do you have some sort of system to calculate 'total health'?

Can you definitively tell me that any, say, heart effects are more than offset by additional adipose tissue and the potential for slight autoimmune suppression?

Have you ever taken an econ class? Can you tell me the personal utility one might gain from alcohol consumption doesn't outweigh the factors you're considering negative?

Quantifying 'good' vs. 'bad' here is pretty much retarded.

Also, why so much hate for these things? Do you drive a car, or eat red meat? Everything is bad for you, dude - pick your battles, but realize they're YOUR battles.

Dani actually addressed this point . . . citation != credibility automatically.

Maybe if you state what you were trying to say in simpler terms then I can give you a better response. I don't have "hate" for anything I just don't support self destructive behavior and just want to see where other's stand on the issue. And sure I do those things, but eating red meat and driving a car has a significant purpose and won't cause me to make a complete ass out of myself by doing too much.

valkyrie · #**179** 07-19-2006, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AKΨ_BRO@DSU

Maybe if you state what you were trying to say in simpler terms then I can give you a better response. I don't have "hate" for anything I just don't support self destructive behavior and just want to see where other's stand on the issue. And sure I do those things, but eating red meat and driving a car has a significant purpose and won't cause me to make a complete ass out of myself by doing too much.

Oh, dear.

Marie · #**180** 07-19-2006, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AKΨ_BRO@DSU

Maybe if you state what you were trying to say in simpler terms then I can give you a better response. I don't have "hate" for anything I just don't support self destructive behavior and just want to see where other's stand on the issue. And sure I do those things, but eating red meat and driving a car has a significant purpose and won't cause me to make a complete ass out of myself by doing too much.

He's saying that calculating the 'goodness' v. 'badness' of drinking is ridiculous.

He stated: What is your method/system for determining Total Health? You must be using some scale, right?

He asked you: Are you adding in the personal value that one gets from drinking (which is different for everyone) to your total?

Since you clearly can't do these things, then your calculating 'goodness' v. 'badness' for the rest of the world in non-sense. You can only do this for yourself (just as you choose to eat red meat when others don't).