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Old 01-22-2009, 04:25 PM
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Hehehehe...but what's the probablility that you believe the liar?
I would stick my head outside to check.

I don't think that is happening here, which is my point.
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Old 01-22-2009, 04:26 PM
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I disagree that the leader needs to succeed in getting his legislative agenda passed for the country to succeed. I'm of the opinion that the country works best when we have a gridlock that keeps the government from doing a whole lot, because as a general rule the government messing around may well make things worse. Take for example Clinton's second term. Very little of his legislative agenda ever got passed because the Republicans controlled both houses of Congress and blocked much of it. And the country did the best it has recently. If you are of the opinion that much of what the government can do is only going to make things worse (which is a fairly standard small government conservative position) than you are of the opinion that the country will be best off if we let the economy balance itself out and rebound without mucking around in it any more than we absolutely have to. To continue your metaphor it's the idea that we have a horse which will win on its own just running as it naturally would, but if the jockey succeeds in how he wants to run the race it's going to slow the horse down.

Or maybe a more apt metaphor would be that the horse fell down but is in the process of getting back up on its own. Kicking the horse and screaming "Get up!" all while loading more and more on its back is just gonna slow the process down.
I understand what you're saying. Checks and balances exist for a reason and I'm glad they do. However, the POTUS is a Dem. The legislative is controlled by Dems. Thus it isnt likely that something similar to Clinton's 2nd term will happen. It's highly likey that a lot of Obama's policies will make it through. Because of this fact I'm saying that this leader's legislative agenda must be successful in order for the country to be successful. I'm not arguing that a leader needs to get his agenda passed for the nation to be successful. Im arguing that since this leader will very likely get his legislation passed it is necessary for his legislation (ie:HIM) to be successful if the nation will be successful. So, in this case if you want the nation to be successful then you want Obama to be successful.
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Old 01-22-2009, 04:27 PM
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I would stick my head outside to check.

I don't think that is happening here, which is my point.
Nope not at all.
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Old 01-22-2009, 04:56 PM
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The clarity is in his history.

The clarity is what he has said in his past makes one looking at his present statement and calling what he said suspect.

His past statements, actions and POVs, which is so abundantly clear is the reason why you should look past the makeup applied to the face of his statements.

Scroll back a few and look for some quotes by him, I left earlier.
I don't need to, I read them the first time.

I'm not arguing that you're wrong; I'm saying you took a shortcut to get there that may or may not be evident to others. Sometimes, you have to play Mapquest.
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Old 01-22-2009, 05:06 PM
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I'm saying you took a shortcut to get there that may or may not be evident to others. Sometimes, you have to play Mapquest.
I knew what he was saying from his first post, but he used a weak example to further his case.
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Old 01-22-2009, 05:38 PM
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Old 01-22-2009, 05:58 PM
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Sorry but with Rush and taking a look back at his track record, I disagree with you when anyone thinks that ALL he meant was policy.

Wordplay at work.
Very much so. The sad thing is that people were actually fooled by his attempt to clean it up and pretend he was only referring to Obama's policies. Right. lmao
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Old 01-22-2009, 06:16 PM
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Donovan McNabb
Halle Berry
Halfrican American
Barack the Magic Negro
Curious George

To start, those are just a few of the reason why I do not give Rush a pass with that portion of his comment.

ETA: Had it been someone else of more credibility and integrity, then the whole statement would require more 'generous' scrutiny.

Limbaugh was right about Mcnabb.
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Old 01-22-2009, 06:35 PM
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Rush Limbaugh is a fat bastard! He's an Oxycontin pain killer abuser that has nothing left but his bloated profanations about anybody who is not him.

And he has a history of publicly saying racially incendiary and insensitive comments. I wonder how shocked he will be when he realizes that "PRESIDENT OBAMA" is his president, too? Probably write a coloring book that sells in the $millions, making more money!

When Rush says "I hope he fails" in the same sentence including President Obama, regardless if it is his policies or not, listeners have heard it and some people can easily have the POV an FCC violation... Why does he wish failure on a POTUS that is only ~2 days old? How would it best serve Rush?

And with any critical analysis of any public figure's comments up for introspection, the question always needs to be asked, "what about the opposite"...

If McLame won and became POTUS, how will it look if some perceived radical Black man on the radio said, "I hope he fails" Yada-yada?

Well SHIT! I hope Rush's radio show fails! I hope Rush's heart fails! I hope many things about Rush fails! But my hopes won't be fulfilled because Rush is an asshole that survives a long miserable ungrateful life anyways...

After all the shit I have suffered with great failures in the past years, I have lost much hope, dare I say faith...

Good to see others on GC hoping well-wishes for this country.

I am sorry, I don't see how hope can survive with the way most people are these days--especially after seeing the hater juice levied against President Obama from White Supremacists, Al Qaeda and "Lone Wolves" on CNN...
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Old 01-22-2009, 06:45 PM
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OK, I didn't read this thread because I so need a break from anything political, but I found it highly amusing that the "Rush: What Not To Do Or Say" thread is coming up just a few below this one.
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Old 01-22-2009, 06:49 PM
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I don't need to, I read them the first time.

I'm not arguing that you're wrong; I'm saying you took a shortcut to get there that may or may not be evident to others. Sometimes, you have to play Mapquest.
Shortcut? Please?

Limbaugh is a long straight road leading nowhere...no mapquest needed.


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Limbaugh was right about Mcnabb.
No ...he was not.

They DID go to the Super Bowl in 2004 right?

Meanwhile that SAME year when his comments were made, what happened to Limbaugh?

Fired from ESPN and then not a few weeks afterwards, brought up on drug charges...Oxycontin remember?

...and you may want to check but he is one of the FEW high caliber QBs playing right now that gets more done with less to work with unlike uuuhhh...the Colts and Patriots?

Gosh, just imagine if T.O. didn't have such a primadonna persona what Philly could have accomplished.

Hell, dare I say, McNabb thus far is one of the ONLY reasons why the Eagles are on the map right now. Since he was drafted how many winning seasons has Philly had?

And ummm what about the NUMBER ONE PICK, Tim Couch? Where is he now?
And if memory serves Philly BOOED the decision (like they tend to boo most things) to draft McNabb.

Who was the last big name QB that Philly had before McNabb?

Randall Cunningham.

So, no...I would have to say Limbaugh was and still is very wrong about McNabb and Black QBs in general.
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Old 01-22-2009, 06:50 PM
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OK, I didn't read this thread because I so need a break from anything political, but I found it highly amusing that the "Rush: What Not To Do Or Say" thread is coming up just a few below this one.
That is funny. Limbaugh is hardheaded and wouldn't get a bid.
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Old 01-22-2009, 06:51 PM
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Rush Limbaugh is a fat bastard! He's an Oxycontin pain killer abuser that has nothing left but his bloated profanations about anybody who is not him.

And he has a history of publicly saying racially incendiary and insensitive comments. I wonder how shocked he will be when he realizes that "PRESIDENT OBAMA" is his president, too? Probably write a coloring book that sells in the $millions, making more money!

When Rush says "I hope he fails" in the same sentence including President Obama, regardless if it is his policies or not, listeners have heard it and some people can easily have the POV an FCC violation... Why does he wish failure on a POTUS that is only ~2 days old? How would it best serve Rush?

And with any critical analysis of any public figure's comments up for introspection, the question always needs to be asked, "what about the opposite"...

If McLame won and became POTUS, how will it look if some perceived radical Black man on the radio said, "I hope he fails" Yada-yada?

Well SHIT! I hope Rush's radio show fails! I hope Rush's heart fails! I hope many things about Rush fails! But my hopes won't be fulfilled because Rush is an asshole that survives a long miserable ungrateful life anyways...

After all the shit I have suffered with great failures in the past years, I have lost much hope, dare I say faith...

Good to see others on GC hoping well-wishes for this country.

I am sorry, I don't see how hope can survive with the way most people are these days--especially after seeing the hater juice levied against President Obama from White Supremacists, Al Qaeda and "Lone Wolves" on CNN...
This post just made my day. Soror, I give you two thumbs up and a pinky.
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Old 01-22-2009, 08:20 PM
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Shortcut? Please?

...and you may want to check but he is one of the FEW high caliber QBs playing right now that gets more done with less to work with unlike uuuhhh...the Colts and Patriots?

Gosh, just imagine if T.O. didn't have such a primadonna persona what Philly could have accomplished.
Now, clip ya wings there Ravens fan! Stop dissin' my Patriots! And you should also lay off my boy T.O.
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Old 01-22-2009, 08:30 PM
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Now, clip ya wings there Ravens fan! Stop dissin' my Patriots! And you should also lay off my boy T.O.
Slow ya roll dere...let me explain...hehe

That was NOT a diss to the Pats but the Pats have ALWAYS had some players they have turned into stars and at times Brady has made some of those players into stars and vice versa...and last year getting Randy Moss? A steal.

and truly think of how great T.O. could have been if he had his act together there in Philly.


Now...without peeking who are the WRs that have started for Philly since T.O.'s departure?

Any Pro Bowlers in that group?
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