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Old 10-29-2007, 12:34 PM
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If you don't like being at the house (but you do seem to like the guys in ANOTHER fraternity) and want all of your time with him to be "alone time", obviously his brothers aren't going to like you very much. Even if you're not confrontational, which it sounds like you are.

They're a big part of his life, and you need to accept that or end the relationship. After 3 years you should have found a way to work around this that's mutually OK for both of you. If you can't, you probably should end the relationship.
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:35 PM
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you all have good points and have made me consider options that i didnt even know were possible ( like disagreeing with is brothers). i guess i just didnt know how much he could do for me and i just wondered if a lot of fraternities were this possessive with their members. now, we only see each other once every 2 weeks (because everytime i see him i think of his brothers) yet his brothers STILL insist on tagging along and accusse me of being selfish when i say no. after awhile, it made me worry i was really hurting their fraternity. despite what it may seem, thats the last thing i want to do.

"If it's been this way for years... I really don't understand why you've stuck around for so long." we're about to graduate and he keeps assuring me things will be different once we graduate. i remember how great things were before he joined so i want to believe him.

It's a waste. Dump him and move on to an adult relationship. Never take promises of good things to come when a man has yet to give you more good than bad.

When you graduate from college, you'll see how ridiculous this all really was. You may also find that he's generally a coward who makes excuses and that his fraternity brothers were just one of many things that pull him away from you.
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:41 PM
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im realize that the answer may lie outside myself so i have no qualms asking others on the internet for advice on what to do. but really the main reason i started this thread was because i honestly was beginning to think a lot of fraternities might secretly be this possessive. i wanted to ask you all, who are more insightful, if that really was true because i didnt want to stereotype all fraternities based on my experience with this one. i guess my question was answered though. so thanks again, everyone.
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:43 PM
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I believe I did type "I would've."

I have never been in a long term relationship that lasted too long. I am quick to end meaningless wastes of time before it hits the 1 year mark.

More than that, I would never ask for opinions from friends, family, or random people on the internet if these opinions don't/won't count for anything. Keep it to yourself if you want to be able to process it all and act on your own.
i didn't mean it like that. i'm sorry for the confusion, i just meant in general, including myself, b/c i feel exactly the same way (and i have learned to do the same thing, meaning ending a relationship b/c i did waste my time after too long)
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:47 PM
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im realize that the answer may lie outside myself so i have no qualms asking others on the internet for advice on what to do. but really the main reason i started this thread was because i honestly was beginning to think a lot of fraternities might secretly be this possessive. i wanted to ask you all, who are more insightful, if that really was true because i didnt want to stereotype all fraternities based on my experience with this one. i guess my question was answered though. so thanks again, everyone.
in terms of this question, no, i don't think that *most* fraternity guys are as possessive. sure, they give their buddies a hard time or whatever, but unless they really feel a certain way will they take their teasing to a new level as in the in-your-face meanness
*(i'm generalizing)
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:53 PM
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im realize that the answer may lie outside myself so i have no qualms asking others on the internet for advice on what to do. but really the main reason i started this thread was because i honestly was beginning to think a lot of fraternities might secretly be this possessive. i wanted to ask you all, who are more insightful, if that really was true because i didnt want to stereotype all fraternities based on my experience with this one. i guess my question was answered though. so thanks again, everyone.
Don't hate fraternity men for the rest of your life.

Just dump that lame boyfriend.
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:04 PM
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you all have good points and have made me consider options that i didnt even know were possible ( like disagreeing with is brothers). i guess i just didnt know how much he could do for me and i just wondered if a lot of fraternities were this possessive with their members. now, we only see each other once every 2 weeks (because everytime i see him i think of his brothers) yet his brothers STILL insist on tagging along and accusse me of being selfish when i say no. after awhile, it made me worry i was really hurting their fraternity. despite what it may seem, thats the last thing i want to do.

"If it's been this way for years... I really don't understand why you've stuck around for so long." we're about to graduate and he keeps assuring me things will be different once we graduate. i remember how great things were before he joined so i want to believe him.
Say what? You only see him once every 2 weeks? That's crazy. I don't understand why he lets his brothers essentially control his relationship. I hate to break it to you but things won't be different after you graduate. He sounds like the type of guy who is easily manipulated by people. This is a guy who won't even stick up for his girlfriend of 3 years! There will be some other factor in his life controlling him in the future - his boss, his job, etc. Are you prepared to deal with that forever? If not, break up with him.
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Old 10-29-2007, 02:21 PM
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Maybe they're just not that into you. Or he isn't, either.

There is obviously a balance to be held. That being said, they are probably taking HIS cues. If he seems unhappy/not satisfied/aggravated, they are going to treat you the way that THEY SEE HIM acting in your absence.

I could be wrong. If I am, then he's a wuss for not standing up to them. A real man will be able to balance the various parts of his life. If this one can't, move on. If he's "the one", he wouldn't be treating you this way.

Assuming you aren't being unreasonable with your requests/demands/etc., (you may not realize how YOU act when in their presence or how you sound when you talk about them). Remember, he loves his brothers (too??).

Lastly, if there is "simply" a hate/hate relationship between the fraternity and you, then you might have to accept it. I was fortunate in that my (now ex)bf's fraternity loved me, and vice versa. I was friends with them before my ex became a pledge/my bf/brother/officer, so that might have made a difference.

Good luck in whatever you choose to do.
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Old 10-29-2007, 02:48 PM
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You wouldn't be with a person for 3 years unless you figured they were a potential candidate for a mate. That said, if the guy doesn't stand up for you now, what does that say about your prospects 10 years from now?
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Old 10-29-2007, 05:22 PM
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DTMFA.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:24 PM
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DTMFA.
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:32 AM
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DTMFA.
Eloquent, simple, and to the point
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:34 AM
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Eloquent, simple, and to the point
Ok, I'll ask -- I can't figure out what that acronym stands for. Translation, please?
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:22 AM
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Just guessing, but I'd say it means
Dump That Maternal-Fornicating Anus
(or something similar)
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:35 AM
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fantASTic, you have also made points w/ me for being a Savage Love reader.

It means Dump The Mother Foicker Already.
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