The Confederate Flag

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Correct. Our last "Black People Meeting" didn't address how all Black people should feel about and respond to images of the Confederacy. Yet, there is a general understanding of what the Confederacy symbolizes to the average person of the African Diaspora (not just Black Americans), agree or disagree.

Two things have always and will always be the case: "some of my bestfriends are Black" and "the Black people I know don't seem to mind" have been cliche' for generations. One thing to remember is that with the structure of segregation and social exclusion across the country (including the north), the average person remains more likely to express discontent over something with those within their racial and ethnic group. Why? For one, it tends to require much less explanation to those who don't understand and don't get it. There are instances where people will share heartfelt opinions and issues to people outside of their racial and ethnic group. But, that is a very careful process because even the best interracial friendships can be made uncomfortable by such discussions. That is why you will hear people (predominantly white people) say things like "I don't see you as Black, you're just Lauren" or "we come together and don't see race." Therefore, many racial and ethnic minorities who have some sense of the larger implications of many things will nod their heads, take mental notes, and save the in depth discussion for nonwhites.

If I had a dollar for everytime a white person said or did something that I considered racially offensive, rooted in privilege and power dynamics, and/or displayed racialized symbols that can be interpreted in different ways. If I had a dollar for everytime I had to ignore these things as to not lose a professional opportunity, be branded as the "angry Black woman," or have the police knocking at my door.

Understandable. But like I can say, "In the North, we generally feel this way because of this, that and the other thing," I thought someone might be able to answer my question for me. But I can see how the two are different for the reasons you've stated.

However, if minorities as a whole felt a certain way and spoke openly about something they were against, it's not exactly like it would be a new concept. I just didn't know if that was the case. Again, part of my lack of Southern knowledge

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

Understandable. But like I can say, "In the North, we generally feel this way because of this, that and the other thing," I thought someone might be able to answer my question for me. But I can see how the two are different for the reasons you've stated.

Read my very first paragraph again.

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

However, if minorities as a whole felt a certain way and spoke openly about something they were against, it's not exactly like it would be a new concept. I just didn't know if that was the case. Again, part of my lack of Southern knowledge

I do not know what this paragraph means.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I do not know what this paragraph means.

In other words, if there was any kind of "outrage" in the South over the flag being flown, I wouldn't know... hence why the question was asked.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

In other words, if there was any kind of "outrage" over the flag being flown, I wouldn't know... hence why the question was asked.

Are we in the same thread? LOL. What do you think this thread is about?

I hope you all now see why people like MysticCat get tired of explaining stuff on either side(s) of the issue. LOL.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Are we in the same thread? LOL. What do you think this thread is about?

I hope you all now see why people like MysticCat get tired of explaining stuff on either side(s) of the issue. LOL.

I just don't get it.

[honeychile]

This is why I mentioned not causing your neighbor to sin. My one neighbor flies an Italian flag, and what gets to me is that it's flown higher than the American flag.

I would not fly a Confederate flag, out of respect for those who would be offended. The pride I have in my heritage is how I live, not what I fly.

Don't even get me started about the flags I've seen in Chicago!

[agzg]

Originally Posted by honeychile

Don't even get me started about the flags I've seen in Chicago!

Exsqueeze me? Our flags are just fine, thankyouverymuch.

You're just jealous you don't have a super awesome city flag that everyone recognizes and wears on t-shirts, back packs, and faces.



ETA: This picture might be better - there are three white stripes.

[Ch2tf]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

The relative few white people who do live in historically and predominantly Black neighborhoods have their Black Card Cliff Notes and have a general idea what to do and what not to do.

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Correct. Our last "Black People Meeting" didn't address how all Black people should feel about and respond to images of the Confederacy. Yet, there is a general understanding of what the Confederacy symbolizes to the average person of the African Diaspora (not just Black Americans), agree or disagree.

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

They brought it up right after lunch.

I'm so happy I wasn't eating my breakfast in front of the computer when I read these because it would be all over the screen and keyboard.

Originally Posted by DrPhil

If I had a dollar for everytime a white person said or did something that I considered racially offensive, rooted in privilege and power dynamics, and/or displayed racialized symbols that can be interpreted in different ways. If I had a dollar for everytime I had to ignore these things as to not lose a professional opportunity, be branded as the "angry Black woman," or have the police knocking at my door.

I might not be rich, but I'd definitely have a WHOLE lot more money than I do now.

ETA: And I'd be able to afford to pay someone to train K_S how to take proper minutes.