@dekeguy, one of my boyfriends is of the more traditional bent as well when it comes to dating. He's also older and I wonder if that has something to do with it. (Not knowing how old you are

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Mid-30s. I joined FB in 2002 when I was in Law School.
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Now, that said, we've gone on less formal dates, but he has a very formal mindset about some things.
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I was talking about first dates. Not more laid back pizza and a flic, or picnic with friends, or something informal.
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However things that would turn me off would include even being offered to order for me. Having the capacity to speak for myself, I'm quite comfortable doing so. The only reason I'd want someone else to order for me would be because I don't speak the language.
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And normally I'd agree with you, but again this is a formal meal and I have found that while it is death to assume it is often received as 'courtly' if one asks, particularly if she is not familiar with the restaurant and one is a regular who knows its strengths and weaknesses. At Antoine's -possibly appropriate, at Ruth Chris's Steak House -inappropriate. Both delicious but totally different vibe.
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And I know drinking is part of most people's social lives, but drinks and wine wouldn't do anything for me.
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Actually, I'm a very moderate drinker myself, but I think a good wine carefully paired with a good meal enhances the experience. There is a great deal of difference between a glass of champagne while waiting for your table followed by a glass or two of wine that compliments the food and the other extreme of getting hog wimpering paddled.
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But then, you're not trying to date me

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I suppose that would depend on whether you were interested, whether you were interesting (which I suspect), and whether you found the activities I described in my earlier post to your liking or that your's were better still.
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Just sharing my thoughts.