Something like a prodigal daughter

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by BeOfService1rst

3.) Some of the nicest people on campus have been sorors. Often they have helped me out when I need help the most.

4.) I have repeatedly been impressed during group work and class presentations when sorors repeatedly demonstrate superb preparation that is consistently reflected in seamless, stellar presentations.

5.) I have seen sorors in crisis; and then I have seen their sisters come to their aid and try to rectify the situation. I found it endearing, admirable and very inspiring.

6.) There have been some instances when I have talked with a soror who was about to speak negatively about another and was stopped by her sister. I took note.

7.) When I am around sorors and the topic of their respective sororities come up, what they have to say is always positive.

A tip:

"Soror" is a term that is used by the Divine 9 sororities and some multicultural sororities. You will not, at least in my experience, find it used among the 26 members of the National Panhellenic Council, including the three groups on your campus.

As for the Divine 9 sororities, it is my impression from statements on GreekChat that the members of those group do not view it as appropriate for anyone to refer to someone else as a "soror" unless both are members of the same sorority.

*On discretion: when I felt that I needed help I thought that an anonymous forum might be a way to ask people who don't know me for honest, open, direct advice. In order to get that type of advice I felt that I had to be very honest and open myself. It was not my intention to offend sensibilities.

It's not that your lack of discretion offended sensibilities really. It's that it took me, a guy in the South, two minutes tops to figure out where you go to school. You said that there are only 3 NPC sororities at your small private school in the Northeast; you told us which they were and said you " have become interested in a particularly older 'women's fraternity'" -- a term that only applies to two of the groups on your campus. "Particularly older" suggests you're referring to the older of those groups. Then you described yourself enough that if anyone in any of the 3 NPC groups on your campus sees this thread -- it's naive and dangerous to assume they haven't -- there's absolutely nothing "anonymous" about your posts.

Your lack of discretion may have blown your chances for a successful recruitment.

[myopicsunflower]

Originally Posted by BeOfService1rst

When I hear the term "Intellectual" it smacks of elite overtones. I just consider myself a person. I really don't know what you are getting at. Please stop.

I think what I said was pretty clear. I'm curious about your definition of "elite" and why someone with your attitudes about elitism would want to join a sorority when some people consider sororities to be elitist organizations. There are people who hold the same view of the Junior League.

Good luck with recruitment.

[33girl]

HBITY?

(the "my godparents are WASPs" part, obvi not the intellectual part)

[libramunoz]

Best of Service--please do the favor and stop referring to the women that you have encountered as a "Soror." Seeing as you are NOT in my sorority and have a veritable lack of discretion, you are basically shooting yourself in the foot in many areas.
What I would suggest that you do is to take a good evaluation of yourself and determine why you feel a need to "fit in" especially with your "ideals" that you uphold of yourself.
You are wanting to be a part of a sorority for what reason? And at this point your are refusing to go back and recheck your realities and your reasoning. At this point you seem to have foot in mouth disease and need to seriously do some rethinking.

[BeOfService1rst]

KSUViolet06 on Humility: I am really not sure how to convey what kind of person I am through these posts. I thought me laying my plight down in front of you would demonstrate at least that I need advice (which is an admission of ignorance/naivite). It seems that I would have to talk to you in person for you to begin to understand me in the way that people who know me already do.

MysticCat: on the use of the term "soror", I did note that only a certain type of girl used the term. Thank you for providing clarification on this. As far as my location: I don't think that I realized that a school can be known so easily by the sororities on its campus. I cannot name any schools based on that criterion. On my demonstration of naivite: I think this entire thread is about me naivite and being "green" as far as this whole process goes. I am naive and in need of advice. Can anyone tell me how I might deal with my situation if I wanted to press forward?

Myopicsunflower on elitism: I am not the one to define elitism. However, I have learned that when one is born into a certain position, one has to learn to have a sense of duty towards god, family and country. I think that the burden of being "elite" in any sense is the realization that one just can't take pride in one's own circumstance. One has the duty to aid, ameliorate and guard the society that made one's life possible. In that sense the people sacrificing their lives overseas so that people back home can bicker on this subject are the ones who are the most elite.

Can anyone tell me how I might deal with my situation if I wanted to press forward? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you again.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by 33girl

HBITY?

(the "my godparents are WASPs" part, obvi not the intellectual part)

LOL

I was wondering who you were talking about.

[Little32]

Originally Posted by BeOfService1rst

Can anyone tell me how I might deal with my situation if I wanted to press forward? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you again.

Here's how to deal with it. Stop doing too much. In this thread. In your life. Several folks have already given you all the advice that you need.

Pursue membership or don't pursue membership, whatever.

Just stop doing too much.

[Kansas City]

Originally Posted by BeOfService1rst

Can anyone tell me how I might deal with my situation if I wanted to press forward? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you again.

Stop trying to explain yourself and take a break from posting on the message board for a while. Be a silent observer and learn about the entire recruitment process and Greek life through other threads on GC. Hope that you will not be recognized/identified by your thread if you decide to go through recruitment at your school in the fall. Be open minded if you choose to rush and be prepared if things do not go as you anticipate. Take care of yourself, watch your grades, participate in activities, work on conversation, and consider other organizations to fulfill your desires if sorority recruitment does not work out for you. Good luck.

[Blue Skies]

Originally Posted by BeOfService1rst

I am not the one to define elitism. However, I have learned that when one is born into a certain position, one has to learn to have a sense of duty towards god, family and country. I think that the burden of being "elite" in any sense is the realization that one just can't take pride in one's own circumstance.

My undergraduate university had a ton of kids from priviledged backgrounds. It was always a source of happiness to me to see how kids from all different backgrounds blended in well together, and got along so well. Among all of these priviledged students, one girl in particular stood out. She came from an enormously wealthy family, even by that school's standards. Everyone knew who she was from the get-go. Her family (who had obviously done a great job raising her) had a chat with her before she set off for school. They had told her that people would be all too ready to find her snobby, and that she would have to make an effort to extend herself to others. She became legendary in my enormous dormitory for going around and knocking on literally every door to introduce herself to her fellow students. Of course, she did not become close friends with absolutely everyone, but she was widely admired for her friendliness, humility, and down-to-earth qualities. I don't remember her ever once making a big deal about her background, family expectations for her, etc. She joined the organizations where she felt comfortable, and did pretty much what she wanted to do during her campus tenure (I think she felt secure enough about herself to not worry about these things overly.) To this day I admire her and have warm thoughts of her.

If you are going to go through rush, go through with the attitude that you are going to meet some new people. Take them as you find them. If you go through rush with the attitude that you want to help your rusher to feel comfortable with you, to enjoy herself, and to have a pleasant conversation with you, then I think that you would be going through with the right perspective. You may or may not form a connection, but you can only decide that after you've gone through the process.

[annabella]

You should totes post your recruitment story.

[AKA_Monet]

Beofservice1st---

I have a wonderful place you can join and feel!!!

[33girl]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Beofservice1st---

I have a wonderful place you can join and feel!!!

There is so a handbasket with your name on it.

[kiteflyersmom]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

LOL! I usually cringe at some of the posts that people write to others on this forum. However, this one is called for, appropriate to the situation, and highly funny! A classic.....

[COBaby]

Originally Posted by BeOfService1rst

KSUViolet06 on Humility: I am really not sure how to convey what kind of person I am through these posts. I thought me laying my plight down in front of you would demonstrate at least that I need advice (which is an admission of ignorance/naivite). It seems that I would have to talk to you in person for you to begin to understand me in the way that people who know me already do.

MysticCat: on the use of the term "soror", I did note that only a certain type of girl used the term. Thank you for providing clarification on this. As far as my location: I don't think that I realized that a school can be known so easily by the sororities on its campus. I cannot name any schools based on that criterion. On my demonstration of naivite: I think this entire thread is about me naivite and being "green" as far as this whole process goes. I am naive and in need of advice. Can anyone tell me how I might deal with my situation if I wanted to press forward?

Myopicsunflower on elitism: I am not the one to define elitism. However, I have learned that when one is born into a certain position, one has to learn to have a sense of duty towards god, family and country. I think that the burden of being "elite" in any sense is the realization that one just can't take pride in one's own circumstance. One has the duty to aid, ameliorate and guard the society that made one's life possible. In that sense the people sacrificing their lives overseas so that people back home can bicker on this subject are the ones who are the most elite.

Can anyone tell me how I might deal with my situation if I wanted to press forward? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you again.

What people are reading and responding to in your posts is not your "naivete;" it's your general refusal to use contractions. You sound like you're writing a formal essay, rather than asking the advice of a group of people who really would like to help.

Serious advice? Get in there and rush. (Or COB, if you don't want to or can't go through with the recruitment process.) You can always back out if you realize that it's not what you wanted. If it works, it will work, and if not, you'll find something else.

(sorry for the low postcount, y'all; I promise I lurk like no one's business.)
Also, many lols at the pledgepark referral.

ETA: Actually, given the thread title, I was expecting nothing but a trainwreck.

[BeOfService1rst]

Thank you all for your time.