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11-08-2008, 03:39 AM
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^^^Christiangirl, your post is well written.
How come what this girl says bothers you so much?
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11-08-2008, 04:02 AM
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^^^Christiangirl, your post is well written.
How come what this girl says bothers you so much?
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Thanks, Monet. At first, I wasn't sure...it was just a gut reaction, you know? But I've thought about it and I guess...well, I've been under attack for supporting Obama, which I expected but it's made me a little touchy nonetheless. Then, having someone I've bonded with say Democrats are evil and ungodly...if it'd been a stranger, I'd have been mad but brushed it off fairly quickly. But hearing someone I know say it made me wonder if that's really what she thinks of me and my family! I know it wasn't personal, but it was such a harsh and unfair judgement. Plus, the fact that she didn't even know what she was talking about...this girl is studying to be a lawyer. If she acts like this based on what some random guy said with no proof, then that makes ME fear for the future!
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11-08-2008, 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by christiangirl
Thanks, Monet. At first, I wasn't sure...it was just a gut reaction, you know? But I've thought about it and I guess...well, I've been under attack for supporting Obama, which I expected but it's made me a little touchy nonetheless. Then, having someone I've bonded with say Democrats are evil and ungodly...if it'd been a stranger, I'd have been mad but brushed it off fairly quickly. But hearing someone I know say it made me wonder if that's really what she thinks of me and my family! I know it wasn't personal, but it was such a harsh and unfair judgement. Plus, the fact that she didn't even know what she was talking about...this girl is studying to be a lawyer. If she acts like this based on what some random guy said with no proof, then that makes ME fear for the future! 
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Welp, just like PB said, folks are still sweatin' President Obama...
PM me though, I've got sumthin' for that which you speak of...
To counteract what she says though is called "assertive speech"--the key is when she said it to you, how did you feel? Exactly? Angry, hurt, alienated? What? Don't tell me, think about it for yourself.
Then once you identify your feeling, you could ask her in this format:
When you say XYZ, I feel ABC and I wonder how you feel about me and my family?
Because 9X outta 10, she is hearing these incendiary comments from people she highly respects without questioning their authority...
That does not mean you stop being friends with her, it just means the nature of your relationship changes. And you can tell her so...
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11-08-2008, 04:25 AM
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Obama is the 44th president right? Everybody was cool 43 presidents earlier, but now jokers are.......
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11-08-2008, 06:08 AM
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To be honest, I couldn't care less if the non-Obama supporters get over it. That's their damn business if they don't. They'll just have to learn the hard way. Let them continue to live in the fantasy world that they're in. I don't know where they've been, but where I'm sitting, things have been hard as hell, the economy is in the septic tank, and there wasn't a glimmer of HOPE until Nov. 4th. Now, that there is some semblance of normalcy returning to our lives, the folks that love the status quo are getting all riled up. However, we need to realize that some people just can't be pleased, nor do they WANT to be pleased, moreso because President-elect Obama is Black.
My favorite quote has ALWAYS been "I can show you better than I can tell you" and that will most certainly be effect for the Obama/Biden administration. He'll just have to show the naysayers that he means business. When life improves, there will STILL be people that don't want to admit it. Why? Because President-elect Obama is Black and they would rather saw off their left leg with a rusty butter knife than to admit it. However, everyone can't be pleased. Let them sit their unhappy, uptight, and cranky asses on the sidelines while we move forward to a better future.
Yes, racism is ugly. Yes, racism is alive and well. Yes, it makes us angry, especially in a society where everyone SHOULD be progressive thinkers. However, the only appropriate thing to do is to ATTEMPT to educate. If that doesn't work, tell them to shut the hell up, sit the hell down, and move the hell on. Life is too short to waste on ignorant people that will go to their graves with their ignorant thoughts.
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Originally Posted by KSig RC
This . . . this just doesn't . . . well, this doesn't really apply to anything, at all.
Don't get me wrong - it's wonderful prose. But who are you talking to? Seriously - who?
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Perhaps you missed the comments like:
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Originally Posted by christiangirl
Like the white guys at the gas station who were raving about how the country's going to the dog's because "that stupid n******'s coming into office." Or the nurse at my job who said "the two names together sound like 'osama bin laden' why on earth would I vote for that?" Mostly, it's the comments on Youtube under Obama videos, such as (edited for content):
"THIS DUMB N****R!"
"F*** OBAMA BITCHEz STUPID N****R SHOULD GO BACK TO DA COTTON FIELDz"
"f888 n*****s. i can't wait to see this f******g country burn to the ground with this dumba** coon as president."
"If both candidates were black, you n***** wouldn't know who to vote for!! "
"remember obama becareful with having dreams cause remember the last black guy who had a dream.. he got shot lol "
"F*** obama, a N***** AS PRESIDENT? Watch that b***h is getting assassinated "
AND SO ON. Some people in this country (including supporters of EITHER side) are CLEARLY not ready for a black man to be president. However, some people weren't ready for Black people to have equal rights upheld by law or for slaves to be freed or for interracial couples to marry. If you wait for people to be ready then the only thing they'll ever be ready for is for things to stay EXACTLY THE SAME. So let's do what we as a country have a history of doing--forging ahead and demanding change and the people who aren't ready will just have to catch up. 
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11-08-2008, 01:16 PM
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11-08-2008, 01:33 PM
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You realize the previous 43 Presidents were open to criticism too, right? That there were people who criticized them soon after their election?
People are going to criticize Obama throughout his Presidency, for a host of legitimate reasons. You're going to have to get used to it, or you're going to have a frustrating and aggravating 4 (or more) years.
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11-08-2008, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by KSigkid
You realize the previous 43 Presidents were open to criticism too, right? That there were people who criticized them soon after their election?
People are going to criticize Obama throughout his Presidency, for a host of legitimate reasons. You're going to have to get used to it, or you're going to have a frustrating and aggravating 4 (or more) years.
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I felt like I was reading a 10 year old's perspective on presidents. People on both sides of the aisle don't realize how silly this election has made them look. They were always silly but needed a reason to bring it out.
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11-08-2008, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DrPhil
I felt like I was reading a 10 year old's perspective on presidents. People on both sides of the aisle don't realize how silly this election has made them look. They were always silly but needed a reason to bring it out.
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Are you saying my perspective was "a 10 year old's perspective?" Or PB's?
Not that I'm self-conscious or anything...haha.
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