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Old 11-26-2007, 12:01 PM
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>>Insert my "everyone should be sterilized at birth and get unsterilized after parenting classes and a licencing exam" rant here<<

Or, abstinence until married (and of course, it is necessary to be counseled before the marriage, just to be sure that both parties are up for the challenge, including the challenge of parenting).
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:04 PM
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Or, abstinence until married (and of course, it is necessary to be counseled before the marriage, just to be sure that both parties are up for the challenge, including the challenge of parenting).
Not that Brit-Brit was counseled before marriage - but she was married when she had both of her children...
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:16 PM
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Yahoo! headlines has a video up now about Tamiflu causing adverse reactions in children - reactions including self-injury and hallucination! I can't post a link because it's a video, but I'll keep looking. It's from CNN, so it shouldn't be too hard to find.

I realize Tamiflu isn't a vaccine, but it's just one more case where, even prescribed doses of medicine are posing serious risks to children.

ETA: Here's a link from CNN. It isn't the video, but this may be better anyway:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/condi....ap/index.html
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:55 PM
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(and of course, it is necessary to be counseled before the marriage, just to be sure that both parties are up for the challenge, including the challenge of parenting).
Yes, "counseled" by a man who has taken a vow of celibacy and has never nor will ever (supposedly) experience either...
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Old 11-26-2007, 02:28 PM
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Yes, "counseled" by a man who has taken a vow of celibacy and has never nor will ever (supposedly) experience either...
Actually many Catholic dioceses have peer pre-marital counseling. My parents were part of our diocese's Pre-Cana program.

Also, in learning to be a counselor, I've learned it isn't necessary to have experienced everything that your clients have to be able to counsel them. You are not making decisions for your clients, but helping them to process their issues, concerns, etc.
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