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Old 05-21-2007, 08:59 AM
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Our Delta chapter is all-male, and last time I checked my greek alphabet, Delta (Auburn) and Gamma Lambda (Clemson) are a hell of a lot older than Pi Zeta (Tuskegee) or Kappa Delta (FAMU) or Chi Nu (Grambling). APO chapters at HBCU's do not own the market on having to adapt following this re-affirmation of our membership policy.
Yes, but they do hold a significant part of the market of having to be pushed. As far as I know, *one* chapter at an HBCU went co-ed without being forced to, Prairie View, and when they did so (Spring 2006) the writing was already on the wall. It may not be racial, but it *is* cultural. Whether or not there was more pressure from alumni and actives to stay all-male, there would be from the rest of the campus. At a campus like University of Maine-Orono, the only student group that is likely to *notice* Alpha Phi Omega going co-ed is Gamma Sigma Sigma. At an HBCU, the reaction is likely to be considerably wider. I would expect these same pressures to make the Gamma Sigma Sigma chapters at HBCUs less likely to have male sisters.

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I'm certain there was a time when people said APO wouldn't work at an HBCU because it was founded by whites and has Scouting at its core. Clearly, that isn't the case.
I'd be interested as to why you think that. I've looked back through the Torch and Trefoils from 1945 and 1946 and don't see any sign that they were treated any differently. When Johnson C. Smith University chartered it was sort of unique for the area, it was a relatively small school in the Altantic Southeast. The Southeast didn't have the Professional Scouters or APO staffers to spread the word that the Northeast (BSA HQ among others) or the Midwest (H. Roe Bartle (2nd APO president) did. The count of chapters of the States in the area: Maryland 1 (UMCP), Virginia 1 (UVA), North Carolina 1 (UNC), South Carolina 1 (Clemson), Georgia 4 (UGA, GaTech, Mercer & Emory), Tennessee None, Florida 2 (UFl, UMiami), Alabama 2 (Auburn, Howard C.).

I'm including the announcement of the chartering of JCSU.



Yes, the word "Negro" is used. It was also written by a member of the JCSU chartering group *and* would have been the standard positive term at the time.

Also, in regards to the NPHC on campus, we did get there after the eight GLOS then in the NPHC did, but not by much. As best as I can tell the range of when they came on campus was 1923(AphiA)-1943(DST) and we came on in 1947.
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Last edited by naraht; 05-21-2007 at 09:07 AM. Reason: added NPHC info
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