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Old 05-22-2007, 03:36 PM
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The whole thread is out of control.

GrandAce#1, let me address you first by saying this. It may not be that the National Fraternity is trying to "get rid" of chapters but purely as an outside person looking in, IT DOES. When you have to literally put out a change of bylaws (a mandate) saying, "Either you get some females in the chapter or your charter is revoked", does that not look like "forcing" a chapter to adapt to something that might not work for them on that campus? You should go click on the link that was provided in the thread earlier. Initially, this only applied to TRANSFER students. Then it was expanded to include ALL students. All this for maybe about 4% of your chapters, and the members represent maybe about 2%? It just seems a bit much for me. Are these said chapters literally putting a "Alpha Phi Omega, NO GIRLS ALLOWED" sign up on their campus? Or did the National organization TRULY make an effort to understand why this was happening on that respective campus? It might be so on that campus where the women KNOW not to pledge an organization with "Fraternity" in the name. Also, what if this chapter did everything they could to promote this mandate and they STILL don't get any women? Should their charter be revoked then?

As far as your other statements, sister, you are preaching to the choir and we've already discussed just how much APO and GSS care about each other, which is little. However, let's not ignore the fact that there is a bond out there between APO and GSS. Now if you really want me to go there, let's not talk about how I see male AND female members of your fraternity trying to "be down" with the same culture that may have caused this mandate (i.e. calling each other "bruh" or using the call "Skeet", etc. which I only USED to see at an all-male chapter). So obviously there is something appealing about that culture to some of the members, particularly with black males that may have pledged at a co-ed chapter; so I also have to raise an eybrow when you say, "APO doesn't have to care". Are you sure?

It's not just with the fraternity. I see members of Gamma Sig doing the SAME THING. I don't want you to think that I know everything about your organization; I don't. But let's be real and recognize the changes that are occuring in both our organizations.

Soror Empress if you ever jump back in, I was able to speak to another soror and I understand your point much better now.

So I think the bottom line is this: Alpha Phi Omega is doing their thing obviously. You all wouldn't be the largest fraternity in the world if you weren't. But Gamma Sigma Sigma, we are coming into our own, we stand on our own as well. Neither needs the other, but there is a connection that you can choose to support or not.
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