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Old 04-19-2007, 01:21 PM
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Sure...but, as important as a job is, I'd rather know that students were safe. I can find another job. I would hope others would feel the same way--if not, sad.
Oh, I agree. I can just understand why people would be cautious. You honestly do, in your day to day life, forget (not so much forget, but isn't in your thoughts every day) that things like this happen.

Cho's great aunt was just on Headline News. If I didn't mishear, she called him an idiot.
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Old 04-19-2007, 01:57 PM
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From what I've heard classmates and roomates and professors knew something was up with him, but nothing was done. That really just needs to change in our society. We can't keep brushing things off that we notice and say "that's not my problem".
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Basically because of comments like this (sorry to just point yours out), I have just basically had to to turn the tv off, stop reading comments, etc.

It is always just so frustrating to me to hear people talk on a subject or make comments on something that they do not know about. Honestly because this is my school it feels personal...

People saying why didn't the school do anything in those two hours? They did, it is so easy to say this when you know the outcome. They thought it was someone else. Obviously no one who even came into to contact with him afterwards realized something was up (i.e. the postal worker)

Why did everyone ignore this kid or not talk to him? People tried. I think honestly everyone who has lived with him has seemed very tolarable to him (from their interviews on tv) despite his very wierd nature more than most people could say.

Why did no one do anything about this? They did, there is only so much you can do based on the law. He was put voluntarily in a mental institution. Police were called (they can only do so much unless he actually does something criminal).

Sorry this is just makes me mad to hear these comments. I know people need to question things, I always agree with that, but sometimes you need to listen to the facts first.
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Old 04-19-2007, 02:33 PM
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How long before one of this sick twisted man's "plays" is produced by other sick twisted parties.

Sadly, I'll willing to bet it won't be long.
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Old 04-19-2007, 02:42 PM
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I applaud you for saying this, angelic1. I wish more Tech students would speak up, because I'm sure you can't be the only one who feels this way.

Regarding the young woman who lived through Columbine and now this; she impressed me beyond belief. She was amazingly composed, and seemed to be emotionally stronger than I could ever imagine.

I'm so upset with the way the media is handling the coverage of this. Even the name they've given this (Virginia Tech Massacre) implies that the university is somehow at fault, when I don't believe it is. I really wish the media would focus on the positives at this point (the sense of community, the camaraderie, the survivors, etc.) instead of the negatives (letting the killer get his last word in by airing his tape, blaming the university, etc.)
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Old 04-19-2007, 04:31 PM
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How long before one of this sick twisted man's "plays" is produced by other sick twisted parties.

Sadly, I'll willing to bet it won't be long.
Try 3 days. Here is why the media needs to police themselves in terms of what they are doing. If you read further into the article, there have been other threats where VT is mentioned. Why is this the route that people will take for attention? But I guess if we keep giving it to them......

36 California schools under lockdown - Suspect threatened to ‘make Virginia Tech look mild,’ police say
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Old 04-19-2007, 04:40 PM
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I was about to post this.

I live about an hour or so away from this mess and our local channels (we get the sacto affilliates) are doing live updates.

Sick mofos I tell ya

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Try 3 days. Here is why the media needs to police themselves in terms of what they are doing. If you read further into the article, there have been other threats where VT is mentioned. Why is this the route that people will take for attention? But I guess if we keep giving it to them......

36 California schools under lockdown - Suspect threatened to ‘make Virginia Tech look mild,’ police say
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Old 04-19-2007, 05:08 PM
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This is from our school paper. I thought it was very well written and wanted to share it with all of you:

Virginia Tech, our thoughts and suppport are with you
Pullman's condulences go out to the victims and their families.

It’s not hard to imagine how Monday started out for Virginia Tech students. It wasn’t much different from any of ours. In a description strikingly similar to the community of Pullman, one VT student described the campus as being located in the “little town of Blacksburg.” The shock that reverberated throughout the country from the horrific scene did not take long to reach WSU, jarring professors and administrators who have spent time at VT. The connections between the schools made the news all the more unbearable. Maybe that is why, as we watched the terrifying news of the campus shootings unfold there, we felt extreme sadness and a strong kinship with the victims, and everyone left behind to deal with the tragedy. Things like this should not happen in towns like Blacksburg and Pullman. But this did not stop a sense of insecurity and uneasiness from creeping into our minds as the details of the attacks emerged. Even worse, the students, faculty and staff of VT will have to live with the terror for the rest of their lives. The Evergreen Editorial Board has written several times about the value of the time we feel the college experience embodies. Now, for the entire Virginia Tech student body, much of that precious time and fond memories are lost, marred by the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history.

Looking ahead, Hokies, take solace in healing power of the wonderful bond being a part of a proud university can create. Amid the unfair realities and grief, remember the countless times you came together to chant the fight song in celebration of another victory. Don’t forget the brilliant feeling that comes with wearing orange and red, the Hokiebird across your chest. Know that today, every Cougar wishes he or she could in some way erase the geographical distance that separates the schools and shoulder some of your sorrow. It is our hope that Pullman’s sincerest thoughts of condolence and sympathy will hurry back to the community mourning in Blacksburg, giving them strength and support to help them make it through this ordeal.
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Old 04-19-2007, 06:09 PM
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I keep seeing a video clip on TV showing a cop cowering behind a tree, holding what looks like a .38 special. Who is this guy? A million times we've heard it said that the police "put their lives on the line every day". Perhaps this just means writing parking tickets, because when someone has a gun and is shooting college kids like fish in a barrel, they hide behind a godamned tree.

Supposedly lessons were learned from Columbine that you don't crouch behind police cars calling, "Come out, come out, wherever you are, you go in and GET HIM. FAST!

The police never did kill the gunman; he killed himself. If he hadn't, how many more people would have died? From what I've heard, the police did nothing to stop the rampage.This coward, whoever he is, should be identified and fired - if not brought up on charges.
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Old 04-19-2007, 06:18 PM
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My school is doing an Orange & Maroon day tomorrow. Mind you, JWU doesn't offer Friday classes besides for a select few and very few people take them. I wish they did this on a Monday-Thursday....
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Old 04-19-2007, 06:30 PM
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I keep seeing a video clip on TV showing a cop cowering behind a tree, holding what looks like a .38 special. Who is this guy? A million times we've heard it said that the police "put their lives on the line every day". Perhaps this just means writing parking tickets, because when someone has a gun and is shooting college kids like fish in a barrel, they hide behind a godamned tree.

Supposedly lessons were learned from Columbine that you don't crouch behind police cars calling, "Come out, come out, wherever you are, you go in and GET HIM. FAST!

The police never did kill the gunman; he killed himself. If he hadn't, how many more people would have died? From what I've heard, the police did nothing to stop the rampage.This coward, whoever he is, should be identified and fired - if not brought up on charges.
Police have to watch out for their safety too. And I thought he shot himself right before police would have reached him? We don't know exactly what the police plan was, so we can't exactly criticize this guy.
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Old 04-19-2007, 06:37 PM
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Police have to watch out for their safety too. And I thought he shot himself right before police would have reached him? We don't know exactly what the police plan was, so we can't exactly criticize this guy.
Exactly.. plus it's possible that he was part of a plan and was SUPPOSED to be hiding behind a tree in case something went wrong.
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Old 04-19-2007, 06:38 PM
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Not knowing when the cop was filmed, nor the specifics of the police response - it is possible that this cop was doing what he was instructed to do. And "cowering" - staying under cover is a good thing. How many cops were on the scene? Who was doing what? You don't know - we can't know - and trust me - my brother is a cop, and a SWAT team officer. Every time he stops a car, he is in danger. Every time he breaks into a crack house, he takes his life in his hands. I guarantee you those cops wanted nothing than to take the killer out - and there were tons of them on the scene. Don't judge by the one picture you saw.
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Old 04-19-2007, 06:39 PM
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Old 04-19-2007, 07:02 PM
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Try 3 days. Here is why the media needs to police themselves in terms of what they are doing. If you read further into the article, there have been other threats where VT is mentioned. Why is this the route that people will take for attention? But I guess if we keep giving it to them......

36 California schools under lockdown - Suspect threatened to ‘make Virginia Tech look mild,’ police say
Honeykiss1974 I was referring to the violent disgusting plays he had written while at VT. One such play is entitled "Richard McBeef". No doubt someone will call them "art" and produce them. There are people who beleive John Wayne Gacys disturbing and ugly clown paintings are art . So I'm sure there are people somewhere who will claim this Cho's writing is worth producing.

It does seem the copycats are crawling out from their dark places to further hasten Americas decent
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Old 04-19-2007, 07:27 PM
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[QUOTE=Buttonz;1432462]Nothing wrong at all with all of theme covering it, but do the pictures of the killer holding guns, etc have to be shown????


I'm not saying it's right, but the media has the right to do it. Anything controversial sells. (or gets ratings)

Personally I think that the media should not have shown the pictures, or clips of the video tape. That stuff could have easily been found on the internet for people who really wanted to see it.

Unfortunately, that's not my call.

Like someone said earlier - I think it was Denise_DPhiE or Heather, the media just focuses on the 'big story of the moment'.... I don't know about your area, but I haven't heard much about Anna Nicole, Britney, or any of the other huge controversial stories that were the topic of every newscast even if it was just repeat info.
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