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Originally Posted by aephi alum
AEPhi is one of those NPC orgs that does not allow new members to wear letters. Why? Unless you're an initiated sister, you don't know the full meaning of the letters, nor have you made a full lifetime commitment to the sorority. New members can represent by wearing their ribbons, NM pins, or items that read "AEPhi" or "Alpha Epsilon Phi", but no Greek letters until initiation. So we welcome our NMs, but we also ask them to wait until initiation for the privilege of wearing the Greek letters.
Most NPC orgs don't let new members wear or own anything with the crest. AEPhi's NM pin actually is the crest, minus the Greek letters.
You say tomayto, I say tomahto.
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Questions (of course you dont have to answer, being that it could be privy to your org):
1. What happens if you have a PNM who says "screw that, im wearing letters" before initiation? Is she asked to leave the pledge class? Does she get to stay with a slap on the wrist? Is she socially looked down on? Or is it something on the books but not really enforced?
2. If new members are allowed to wear the crest, are they told what those things on the crest mean? If not, isnt that the same as wearing letters they dont know the meaning of?
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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle
Sigh.
eta - I'm all for AEPhi handling their business anyway they wish - more power to them. But I still have to wonder (see below). Also, is this AEPhi HQ policy, or your chapter? I find many chapters have rules that are more strict than the inter/national GLO's policies.
Upon reflection, the fact that the crest IS the new member pin, minus the letters, is probably the strongest argument for AEPhi's policy. The letters are what distinguishes the new member pin from the initiated member's crest. So to over-logical me, that makes sense.
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See, and it doesnt make sense to me, based on my argument above. NMs dont know what the letters mean, so they cant wear them, but the letters spelled out? youre still representing the organization. The crest has things, or perhaps a phrase, that are secret as well, but they CAN wear them? doesnt add up.
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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle
Pray tell - if a pledge doesn't know what the letters mean, and thus shouldn't wear them, why do you allow pledges to wear Phi Mu spelled out? They don't know what "Phi Mu" means as a pledge, right? So what is the difference?
I realize this is far snarkier than I usually am, and if I could figure out a non-snarky way to write it, I would. From a logical standpoint, I just can't see why the letters themselves are verboten, while writing it out is okay.
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right, id like some answer to this as well. I think it leaves too much grey area. You are either a member (initiated, dues paid, NME process complete) or you are not (expressed interest, attended rush, going to rush/COB/pledge class/NME activities on the WAY to being initiated).
its like being pregnant. you either are or arent. it would be like saying "well im 8 months pregnant, and since im so close to childbirth, i can call myself a mom. but you're only 6 weeks pregnant, so you cant call yourself a mother yet."
or like getting a job. youre not an employee until you go through all those interviews, the head honcho tells you "youre hired," you get your company ID and all that jazz and hit New Employee Orientation. Imagine the look on someone's face if they were passing out business cards for a company they were in the interview process with. Theyve got no rights to represent that company.
Or... is it more like upon graduation, that middle area when you walk across the stage, yet you havent gotten your diploma? You can tell everyone you're a Univ of Whatever alum but its not official until the university sees all the requirements have been met?
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