Results of 2006 APO Convention.

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Originally Posted by Empress0105

a frat house is not just a house that official letters painted on the side...here at hu, a "frat" house is any location where everyone in that residence is a member of said org...they function as more unofficial frat houses, pardon me for not expounding on the technicalites of what is and is not a frat house

Fair enough, here is what the Alpha Phi Omega Standard Articles of Association says:
SECTION 15. HOUSING POLICY. As a Service Fraternity, Alpha Phi Omega does not operate nor
maintain a fraternity house as lodging quarters for Members nor for any other persons. A Chapter may
maintain rooms for meetings at the discretion of its Members.

Originally Posted by Empress0105

and sorry, but race is an issue....the culture of greek life at hbcu's is simply plainly different than at non-hbcu's. now the only difference i see between hbcu's and non hbcu's is the racial makeup of the majority of those students.......

I think the split has to do more with two things: History of the HBCUs which leads to a culture more likely to support the NPHCs and secondly, the dominance of the social environment of the University by the NPHCs. A school like West Virginia State University which is an HBCU, but whose current enrollment is 80% white will only have some of those characteristics.

Originally Posted by Empress0105

i do have a question...how many all female chapters of apo are there? will they be forced to recruit male memebers and show that good faith effort?

I'd split this two ways...
For chapters that have had significant numbers of both genders in the past and are just "down on their luck" in numbers and the 4 (to pick a small number) left happen to be of one gender.. They would just get advice/suggestions on recruiting in general, one of which might be having brothers (of both genders) from another chapter help at rush tables to help recruit. That's something that has been true for quite some time.

For chapters that have never had men, as far as I know only two chapters of Alpha Phi Omega chartered with no men: Carlow College and Cedar Crest College. Both of these chartered within the last 15 years and at least at the time had no men living on campus and a small number (<5%) taking classes. I have no idea if they have had male brothers or not. What's key is if they've ever made an effort to exclude male brothers (which would greatly surprise me).

The closest comparison would probably the Alpha Phi Omega chapter at Wabash College, which is currently an all-male school (and thus an all-male chapter). My *guess* on what would happen should the school go co-ed would be that the Regional Director would be very surprised (and perhaps even hesitant) with female brothers the first year that Wabash has women. The Regional Director would probably only become interested in "good faith efforts" after the school was co-ed for 2-3 years *and* the percentage of women at the school was greater than 20%. If the percentage of women on campus remained at below 10% indefinitely, I could imagine the chapter remaining all-male for *years*.

Out of the 14 currently active APO chapters that have not admitted women, none of them are at schools with more than 60% men in the enrollment (ranges from 26.5% at Maine-Machias to 58.8% at Drexel). On the other hand, the APO chapter at the Citadel (school currently 91.7% male) may have had periods with no women brothers after the school went co-ed.

This isn't about forcing a chapter to have members from both genders, it is about having gender no longer being a criteria used to exclude. I know that Gender and Race aren't equivalent, but imagine the following: Alpha Phi Omega was like those social greeks that up until the 1960s only admitted whites. In 1976 Alpha Phi Omega allows blacks to join, but allows chapters to remain all-white if they want to. The fraternity decides to enforce allowing blacks to join all chapters. A chapter at University of Georgia that was all-white would be forced to show good faith effort that they were recruiting from all-races, but the chapter at Maine-Farmington (school 97% white) might stay all-white without deliberately doing so.

Originally Posted by Empress0105

my opinion isn't going to change, but all i can do is work that much harder to continue to spread MY service organization across the land as aggressively and stubbornly as i see alpha phi omegans spreading theirs


good day!

Amen!