Three Hospitalized (Alcohol) at U of Central Florida

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by jessXIca

Not really. They're there to protect pledges. They are a little...thorough, I guess I'll give you that. But people have been killed...there need to be laws that ban it completely in ANY form.

Maybe the thing about the prestige of the chapter is true at some schools, but not at my school, and what happened today proves that very well. At UCF, you don't really get more prestigious than SAE. They were perceived as one of the best fraternities on campus and (someone correct me if I'm wrong) I think they might have been one of the biggest as well.

Actually, yes they are. Hazing laws are not thorough and are very hazy at best. My favorite was this definition: "Hazing is something done to pledges that active members don't have to participate in." Great, that's really defined.

Sorry, you can't just say.."Well, people have been killed...so lets just ban it completely..." People have been killed shooting shotguns on hunting trips........I guess we should just ban guns. People have been killed crossing the street by cars. Maybe we should ban crosswalks.....or how about cars? Fraternity members have been killed falling down stairs...mabye we should ban steps...or perhaps second and third floors on buildings.

It is just shocking to me how narrowminded some of you people are concerning hazing. As i've said before......you can haze without it being dangerous or life threatening in a manner that actually serves a purpose.

And I hate to say it.....but when I think "prestige and power" SAE at CENTRAL FLORIDA doesn't come to mind. I generally think SAE at UGA, SAE at Texas, SAE at Alabama, SAE at SMU, etc. Many of these chapters have had some pretty serious things happend to them.......and came out of the situations with little more than probation and a slap on the wrist. So, if you are going to argue with me that power, money, prestige, and reputation nationally don't play a part in decisions.......you are going to fight an uphill battle. I've been around it and i've seen it first hand.