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Old 10-27-2006, 01:08 PM
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its really sad to see one of the strongest fraternities here on campus in so much trouble. Local news stations blow things out of proportion, so dont take everything they say literally.

question though, what do you guys think the consequences will be?
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Old 10-27-2006, 01:49 PM
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I don't think I've ever seen someone of legal age drink to the point of needing hospitalization.
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Old 10-27-2006, 02:28 PM
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I don't think I've ever seen someone of legal age drink to the point of needing hospitalization.
I have, but they weren't too far into legal age.
Your point is well taken though. Most people's binge drinking years are from 18-21. I really think it's because younger people only see alcohol at parties and never get a chance to experience it responsibly. People think that since it's already illegal to have one drink, might as well have ten. I think it's crazy that the gov expects people to go off to college and wait till they're 21 (late junior/senior year) to drink! Prohibition breeds binge drinking.
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Old 10-27-2006, 07:49 PM
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I have, but they weren't too far into legal age.
Your point is well taken though. Most people's binge drinking years are from 18-21. I really think it's because younger people only see alcohol at parties and never get a chance to experience it responsibly. People think that since it's already illegal to have one drink, might as well have ten. I think it's crazy that the gov expects people to go off to college and wait till they're 21 (late junior/senior year) to drink! Prohibition breeds binge drinking.
Run for office and fix that. It can't be too hard to win an election in Florida judging by the folks representing them on the national scene
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Old 10-28-2006, 07:16 PM
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ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- A University of Central Florida fraternity is under investigation. Sigma Alpha Epsilon has been accused of hazing after three people were taken to the hospital. It's not the first time the frat house has been in hot water.

Accused by whom? It doesn't say.

"We don't know much about what happened to lead them to go to the hospital.

Hmmm...

The three students were treated and released. UCF will talk with doctors to see what made them so sick.

Treated? Treated with what? For what? What's the treatment for drunkeness? Hot coffee?
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Old 10-28-2006, 07:20 PM
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"Yes, sometimes history for a chapter is included in looking at an appropriate institutional response,"

It seems to be included when writing for a newspaper too. I don't know anything about SAE at UCF, but I know BAD reporting when I see it. These stories are loaded with unsubstantiated inuendos.

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Old 10-28-2006, 10:03 PM
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Judging from the following links seems as if there will be a hearing next Friday on this matter. Always more to follow.
http://www.wftv.com/news/10167991/detail.html

http://www.news-press.com/apps/pbcs..../61026020/1075

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...a-news-florida

http://www.wesh.com/news/10166479/detail.html

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...tion-headlines



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Old 10-29-2006, 03:00 PM
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"Yes, sometimes history for a chapter is included in looking at an appropriate institutional response,"

It seems to be included when writing for a newspaper too. I don't know anything about SAE at UCF, but I know BAD reporting when I see it. These stories are loaded with unsubstantiated inuendos.

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Old 11-08-2006, 07:00 PM
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Sigma Alpha Epsilon HQ has closed the chapter, according to this news report:

http://www.wftv.com/news/10276110/detail.html
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Old 11-08-2006, 07:30 PM
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Well, that was a really descriptive news report.

To put it bluntly, if they F--K up, then they should be gone from ignorance on their part! Get rid of them and then go back if they can and re-colonize.

Suddenly, SAE seems to be in the spot light?

SAE IHQ better put a clamp on this and soon.
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Old 11-08-2006, 08:40 PM
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Earp, you have no idea what went on at the house that night. Did you even read that report? First off notice how it was changed from hazing to "party" also did you notice that it said it is unclear why they were sent to the hospital? Simple, because noone had alcohol poisoning or anything like that. It was called a party becasue it was never clearly established if it was hazing. Would you like to know why? Because every pledge did everything voluntarily, they even said this while being questioned by the police. This is why the law should be questioned and is out of control, a sentence is being set forth when nothing has even clearly being established. Guilty until proven innocent in this case.
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Old 11-08-2006, 10:07 PM
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Well, that was a really descriptive news report.

To put it bluntly, if they F--K up, then they should be gone from ignorance on their part! Get rid of them and then go back if they can and re-colonize.

Suddenly, SAE seems to be in the spot light?

SAE IHQ better put a clamp on this and soon.
Tom;
If one uses a search engine with a news option, one can find stories on more than just SAE. Plug in any GLO and see what comes up.
I have seen a few stories that I just did not wish nor wanted to post.

And National seems to be doing just what they need to be doing. Perhaps in this case, could have waited for some of the dust to settle.
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Old 11-08-2006, 10:42 PM
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Well, that was a really descriptive news report.

To put it bluntly, if they F--K up, then they should be gone from ignorance on their part! Get rid of them and then go back if they can and re-colonize.

Suddenly, SAE seems to be in the spot light?

SAE IHQ better put a clamp on this and soon.

How about you shut your fu**ing mouth.
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Old 10-29-2006, 05:05 PM
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question though, what do you guys think the consequences will be?
I'm not sure although I think this might be the last straw for SAE at UCF. About 3 years ago, there was an incident that SAE was suspended for which involved some pledges. I believe the story was posted on GC. Back when I was still at UCF, there was an incident with them and another fraternity and a drug ring. I know the other fraternity was suspended and I believe SAE was too. I remember the media going crazy over that story. They camped out in front of the fraternity houses and would harass Greeks when they were walking to class just so that they could get a quote. The media wasn't ever able to get the story right back then so I have little faith that the articles they're writing now are correct. Still, it doesn't look good for SAE. I know the University is really cracking down on Greek Park after having a number of hazing and risk management cases over the past couple of years.
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Old 10-30-2006, 12:41 AM
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yea i acctually know the pledges that were involved in the whole situation 3 years ago. they are currently brothers. But the media's facts are so incorrect and blown out of proportion. Theres a meeting on friday to see what UCF decides. Hopefully they will be able to keep their house, bc we've all seen the drama that UCF is STILL having with Pike and their house.
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