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Old 01-27-2010, 03:39 PM
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I've seen a few, but I actually have a lot of experience with burns. That brand was the result of multiple applications. They would have had to heat the brand and apply it to his skin more than once. The majority of brands I have seen have been a single sybol that is no larger than about 6". Anything larger risks skin sloughing since the skin around the brand will actually cook as well as the skin below the appliance. It may not look too terrible to you now, but the cell death will spread over the next few days...that's why he'll require several surgeries to repair the damage.
Many of the brands I've seen have come from multiple applications. Not saying it's right, but it's not out of the ordinary.

He's a grown man who made a grown up decision. His bad.

I'm not really inclined to believe that he was "forced" into doing it. The Carter family is very prominent in FW, especially around the TCU area. I will agree with DrPhil again -- I think he did something stupid, got found out, and is now trying to save face.
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:40 PM
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I must live under a big rock...who is Amon Carter?
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:42 PM
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I must live under a big rock...who is Amon Carter?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amon_G._Carter
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:45 PM
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Many of the brands I've seen have come from multiple applications. Not saying it's right, but it's not out of the ordinary.

He's a grown man who made a grown up decision. His bad.

I'm not really inclined to believe that he was "forced" into doing it. The Carter family is very prominent in FW, especially around the TCU area. I will agree with DrPhil again -- I think he did something stupid, got found out, and is now trying to save face.
That may be, but automatically labeling him a liar just because of his family is wrong. He has a huge wound. Let there be an investigation. There is definitely enough question out there to warrant that. BTW...when I say multiple, I mean MANY, not like two or three. If he said stop after they started, they should have stopped. I for one, believe that he would have said stop. I think anyone would have said stop. Let's see more evidence. Show us the video, pictures of the defensive wounds, but calling him out because he is a Carter is classist.
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:45 PM
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I just don't assume someone is lying because they have money and a privileged background.
Neither do I.

Take my posts within their full context. Not to mention, what's embedded in your posts is an assumption regarding my own background.
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:48 PM
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Let there be an investigation.
Yeah we're definitely trying to stop the investigation. We're so sold on our opinions based on this limited info that nothing else matters.
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:48 PM
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calling him out because he is a Carter is classist.
And assuming that he was completely oblivious to that fact that burning your flesh could hurt is naive.
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:49 PM
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Here's a potential legal problem IMO, somebody had to actually plan this out, though not necessarily to do it to this guy. "TCU Branding Iron" doesn't normally appear on someone's ski trip packing list.
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:51 PM
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Thanks. I guess he is more of a local philanthropist.
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:51 PM
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Here's a potential legal problem IMO, somebody had to actually plan this out, though not necessarily to do it to this guy. "TCU Branding Iron" doesn't normally appear on someone's ski trip packing list.
Wire hangers.
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:53 PM
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Here's a potential legal problem IMO, somebody had to actually plan this out, though not necessarily to do it to this guy. "TCU Branding Iron" doesn't normally appear on someone's ski trip packing list.
So, is it the branding of members that is the problem?

Of course it was planned out. The packing of a branding iron is quite common for GLO chapters that engage in branding. If you are getting a group together, that is the perfect time to brand those who want to be branded.
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:54 PM
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Wire hangers.
Shows how little I know about this sort of thing.
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:55 PM
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Wire hangers.
NO. WIRE. HANGGERRRRRRRSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:59 PM
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So, is it the branding of members that is the problem?

Of course it was planned out. The packing of a branding iron is quite common for GLO chapters that engage in branding. If you are getting a group together, that is the perfect time to brand those who want to be branded.
My point was if something was brought with to do this (until K_S pointed out wire hangers), then legally it could be viewed as premeditated assault.
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