Depression (the disease, not the economy)

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by libramunoz

Dang Doc, go away for a few hours to eat dinner and talk with moms and you and Monet get into it!

That's much to do about nothing.

Originally Posted by libramunoz

No Seriously, I'd have to disagree with you on this. Many people that have mental health illness'/issues are very normal. Matter of fact, many of them are living with it on a daily basis. They may not say jack diddly squat about it and you'd see them everyday and would never know.
Some people are just more open to talking about it and would tell you, maybe in conversation, maybe in passing, or you'd hear about it in "gossip" that they have depression, schizophrenia, OCD, ect. You may see them taking medicine and just have taken a sinus pill that day and inadvertently ask them about the color of their meds and how it reminds you about taking your sinus pill that morning and they tell you, "oh no, this is for my depression, my (fill in the blank)" and they move on to the rest of their day and you think "wow, you never woulda thought that he/she/it had that" and move on as well.
I think it's when one sees the "deviant behavior" execude itself into societal norms that the illness of mental health becomes "scary" or "frightening." When one sees the "effect" of another persons mental health breakdown in public, this is when those deemed as "socially acceptable" mental health issues becomes stimagitized and those people seemed to be deemed "freaks" or "weird."
For those that know or feel that they have a mental health issue, on the general whole, they tend to seek help/advice when it's acting out or when they feel it is impeding their daily life. However, those that have suicidial ideations, generally they KNOW that they need help. For this group, the sad part is the 1 to 5% of the population that don't get the help and committ the act because they felt that they COULDN'T talk to anyone about it because they felt there was NO help for them.
But I feel that if this is something that is brought out more into the open, then people will be more willing to seek the help that they need in order to continue to help themselves and help those around them help themselves as well.
I can understand what you are saying that people would come here first before they sought the help that the needed for themselves. But on the general, I think folks know this damng sure aint' the place to get help for a rather serious mental health issue.

I agree with you that people with mental disorders appear "normal" to the extent that they are everyday people, some of whom we wouldn't expect to have these disorders. If that's what you meant, then cool.

You seem to already know that people with mental disorders aren't "normal" in the sense that having a mental condition of some sort is "normal," partially because it is extremely common. There are people who feel as though suicidal ideation, depression, and other mental disorders are "normal" to that extent. That's what I was referring to.

[libramunoz]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

You = hilarious.

Thank You Dahling (with the fake Billy Crystal voice)

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by libramunoz

Correct on one point, Monet. I was talking about the stigmatization of mental health and mental illness and it's awareness.

However, I wasn't responding to Hot Damn for the purpose of having a support group. If I wanted a support group, I'd go to the local hospital/MHMR center and join one.

Simply put, Hot Damn asked a question about depression and I simply responded to it. If your feelings were hurt by my response, hey, what I learned in my studies 101, I cannot control your feelings, only my own.
I don't have a problem in talking about mental health/illness issues. Whether they affect you personally or not, then that's simply on you. For me, they are a part of my life and it's something that I know and have learned how to deal with. If someone feels that they can get some support from learning on how to deal with their mental health/illness issues based on what I've learned or gone through, then great! That is simply the process of growing up and learning how to deal with their problems and themselves.

If you felt that it was something that shouldn't have been discussed or talked about, then what was the need for you to respond.

I fully know that GC damn sure ain't no site for getting the mental health/illness' needs and issues met. This is the LAST PLACE ON EARTH where one would expect this to occur. Again, if someone can gain help from what I have gone through, I am happy as a mushroom in cowshit!

You might not be using GC for mental health support, but others, who do not post, DO read this area and make health decisions based on what YOU said... May as well be accurate without mythology...

Look, you posted it, your words have far-reaching effects. Be mindful of that. This form of "tactile responsiveness and reflectiveness" is NOT healing unless the words typed are supportive. I KNOW!!!

That is ARIAFYA LLC is for... Many here know about it.

But, it is unrealistic of you to think that your mere words on a message board absolutely do NOT far-reaching effects...

To put people straight: I am 40 years old. And right now, after going through a powerhouse hospice care training, the discussions on GC, means ZERO to me right now... How much more perspective do you need than that?

[DrPhil]

Yikes.

And...score.

[libramunoz]

Doc, we get each other on the point. Yeah, it's just about Knowing that you're different, but still trying to be the same.
It's like when I first moved to this country assed town (yes, it's very country to the point of having a stop sign and a blinking light at the center of town), I felt "normal" but people felt that we (my brother and I) were different because we werent' raised here and because of our last names, and because we were from Cali-fornie-ia. We felt "normal" but the society around us acted as though we'd just came here from the Oregon Trail and needed to pack mules and oxen to get us to school everyday in the covered wagon.
It's just about being normal knowing that there is something that...well...is a little bit different about you.

[libramunoz]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

You might not be using GC for mental health support, but others, who do not post, DO read this area and make health decisions based on what YOU said... May as well be accurate without mythology...

Look, you posted it, your words have far-reaching effects. Be mindful of that. This form of "tactile responsiveness and reflectiveness" is NOT healing unless the words typed are supportive. I KNOW!!!

That is ARIAFYA LLC is for... Many here know about it.

But, it is unrealistic of you to think that your mere words on a message board absolutely do NOT far-reaching effects...

To put people straight: I am 40 years old. And right now, after going through a powerhouse hospice care training, the discussions on GC, means ZERO to me right now... How much more perspective do you need than that?

First of all, Monet, let's get this straight--you don't know me from adam or from the mushroom with cowshit upon it.
Secondly, WHATEVER someone wants to convey from what I've said then they are MORE THAN WELCOME TO IT.
Thirdly, whatever folks KNOW ABOUT, that's on them, NOT ME!
Fourthly, It's unrealistic for YOU to think that folks haven't THOUGHT about their OWN problems before and can RELATE to somebody else's problems WITHIN their OWN life.
Fifth, DO NOT THINK THAT YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE HERE WITH ED-JA-MA-CATION! Just like you got yours, darlin, I've got mine as well! I have been through many, many, and many a more training JUST LIKE YOU.
Sixth--Get over yourself. Stop being the dog chasing it's tail. You'll only end up going around in circles.
Seventh--do you really want to start this battle with me? If so, round one, ding! I just got a TKO! Wanna get up again and try?

[libramunoz]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

And right now, after going through a powerhouse hospice care training, the discussions on GC, means ZERO to me right now... How much more perspective do you need than that?

And if the discussions on GC mean ZERO to you right now, why are you here posting?
Just a thought to think about from a chick who KNOWS about her mental health issues.
You just might wanna check out yours! Need the DSM-IV TR--I could mail you mine!

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by libramunoz

First of all, Monet, let's get this straight--you don't know me from adam or from the mushroom with cowshit upon it.
Secondly, WHATEVER someone wants to convey from what I've said then they are MORE THAN WELCOME TO IT.
Thirdly, whatever folks KNOW ABOUT, that's on them, NOT ME!
Fourthly, It's unrealistic for YOU to think that folks haven't THOUGHT about their OWN problems before and can RELATE to somebody else's problems WITHIN their OWN life.
Fifth, DO NOT THINK THAT YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE HERE WITH ED-JA-MA-CATION! Just like you got yours, darlin, I've got mine as well! I have been through many, many, and many a more training JUST LIKE YOU.
Sixth--Get over yourself. Stop being the dog chasing it's tail. You'll only end up going around in circles.
Seventh--do you really want to start this battle with me? If so, round one, ding! I just got a TKO! Wanna get up again and try?

Go knock yourself out hun... Because, you aren't the only one vocal about there mental health issues and believe me, I've been there, done that, over the 9 years I have been on GC...

It's really not like what you think. I am not a threat.

Wow, you really set me straight! Good for you! Does that make you feel 100%!

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by libramunoz

And if the discussions on GC mean ZERO to you right now, why are you here posting?
Just a thought to think about from a chick who KNOWS about her mental health issues.
You just might wanna check out yours! Need the DSM-IV TR--I could mail you mine!

Thank you...

Bless your heart...

[libramunoz]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Go knock yourself out hun... Because, you aren't the only one vocal about there mental health issues and believe me, I've been there, done that, over the 9 years I have been on GC...

It's really not like what you think. I am not a threat.

Wow, you really set me straight! Good for you! Does that make you feel 100%!

Again, If the discussions on GC mean ZERO to you right now, why do you continue to respond?
I'm glad that you have been vocal about mental health issues! YAY!
But why are you sitting here taking a piss on my cloud and telling me it's rain? And then attempting to throw shit back in my face and tell me it's a cotton ball?
No one is saying that you are a threat! You are the only one believing this.
Actually I feel great! Thanks for asking!
Are you ready for round three darlin?

[libramunoz]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Thank you...

Bless your heart...

Send me the address.

[DrPhil]

"I'm just trynna help, Ike."

"What?! You trynna help Ike?! Ike don't need no help!!"

[libramunoz]

Doc, Doc, Doc! LOL!

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by libramunoz

Again, If the discussions on GC mean ZERO to you right now, why do you continue to respond?
I'm glad that you have been vocal about mental health issues! YAY!
But why are you sitting here taking a piss on my cloud and telling me it's rain?
No one is saying that you are a threat! You are the only one believing this.
Actually I feel great! Thanks for asking!
Are you ready for round three darlin?

Morbid sense of curiosity? IDK? You already knocked me out!!! Good for you for your verbal combat skills... No need to prove to me that you can out-sick my mental health conditions or find solutions to them. Defensive much? All I am saying to DrPhil (fka DSTChaos, fka ChaosDST), is we disagree with what she is calling deviance and normalcy... She chose to call me an idiot... This is not the first time she has belittled me or others... I have asked her to stop. She chooses not to do, so.

So you get in and totally misinterpret my intent. That's cool. But, you are not extending olive branches either... So, get your kicks in punching me out proving your point...

Nameste',

Dr. G-

[DrPhil]

People always say message board tone is easily misconstrued but I think that our posts are often accurately interpreted based on their over- and underlying tones.

Mine included.