Sororoties Blacklisted Us.. No more events?

[tkeman89]

On my eboard I recently ran into a problem from our social chair. His first semester he was elected he did a rather poor job: he set up 3 raids, which is 2 less than our usual 5, and of those 3, 2 of the sororities flaked giving us obviously fake excuses: "We ran out of money" for the first one and the second one claimed they had a schedule mishap and planned an important initation event on that day and were unable to reschedule.

At first I blamed the social chair for not keeping good contact, not following up, etc. For our next semester we have a grand total of 1 confirmed raid and the social chair is claiming that sororities are not answering phone, ignoring email/voicemail or being plain honest: their sorority isn't interested in doing events with us. At first I thought these were excuses, so I attempted to take over for him and ran into the same thing. After trying to contact a social chair for a sorority multiple times and being ignored and rejected, I now believe what my social chair has said.

It's true, a lot of our guys are to blame for not being quite social or interesting, but we've never had it this bad in the past and I feel our consistency of guys is just as good.

As far as I know, our fraternity didn't actively or purposefully do anything to piss off other sororities. We row walk occasionally and most sorority girls are not hostile to us.

To fraternity men: Have you had this problem before? How did you fix it?

To sorority women: Have you ever blacklisted a chapter? How can you get a fraternity to do events with you?

[KSUViolet06]

Some things I can think of:

*Maybe you didn't outwardly do something to offend them, but do you guys give off a vibe that turns the ladies off? For example, do you not interact with the girls at social events?

*Guys bash sororities all the time (to each other and their other guy friends). Is it possible that your brothers have said bad things (even just kidding) about a sorority and had it get back to them (i.e. fatty nicknames, etc)?

*Do you guys have poor attendance? Alot of times, sorority chapters get annoyed when they have all (for example) 80 girls show up for a social and like 20 guys come.

[PANTHERTEKE]

I'll attempt to be helpful for once :P.

Okay, does your chapter support the shit out of sorority's philanthropy events? Like do you show up with 50%+ of your active members and actively participate in the things they do? (Like their pageants-if they do that kind of thing on your campus, banquets, fundraising events, etc.)

If not, then that's where you start. First, you have to develop good relations with them- which your chapter doesn't have.

So what you do is you actively support EVERY sorority (even the not-so-good-ones) in the activities they hold. And what I mean by "actively" is don't just show up..if it's something that allows for participation and competition, have brothers partake in it. Make your pledges go too.

Once you show that you actually care and you support them, they're more likely to do events with you. I suggest that before you ask them to do socials, perhaps team up with a sorority for a philanthropy event. They'll be more likely to do that. Maybe it'll be out of pity or guilt at first (like a "return the favor" kind of thing), but eventually you'll develop better PR and your problem will diminish.

There's also the other things you can do like chapter meeting visitations, serenades, etc. but that's more basic and superficial.

Hope that helps.

[tkeman89]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

[COLOR="Magenta"]Some things I can think of:

*Maybe you didn't outwardly do something to offend them, but do you guys give off a vibe that turns the ladies off? For example, do you not interact with the girls at social events?

Some of the guys in my frat are not very social. That's not something I can really change but most of the guys interact with the ladies.

*Guys bash sororities all the time (to each other and their other guy friends). Is it possible that your brothers have said bad things (even just kidding) about a sorority and had it get back to them (i.e. fatty nicknames, etc)?

As far as I kno, aside from casual joking, no one has really said anything that disrespectful to a sorority girl.

*Do you guys have poor attendance? Alot of times, sorority chapters get annoyed when they have all (for example) 80 girls show up for a social and like 20 guys come.

I doubt it. We have had one raid and most of the guys showed up.. Attendance is pretty good.

[AOEforme]

I agree with PANTHERTEKE. Start there and that should help.

[GammaPhi88]

I've been wondering...are the brushoffs coming from all the sororities on campus or just the ones you've partied with in the past or want to party with. If it is not all the sororities, focus on those that you may not have originally wanted to party with...they may turn out to get along with your guys great!

[AlphaDeltaDelta]

Is this a more elaborate username for TIDEKICKER and FLASURFERTARD? I've never heard of a fraternity having this problem, as there are always some sororities who don't have too much going on and jump at any chance of events. I'm ignorant about what "raids" are though... Like panty raids from "Revenge of the Nerds"?

[Elephant Walk]

Haha, oh come on. I can't believe my post was deleted!

I didn't even say the name of the fraternity.

[ASTalumna06]

^^ I don't think you had to.

[NutBrnHair]

Collegiate women have so much more power than they usually realize! I think it's great to send a collective message to a fraternity when they don't act well.

[LadyLonghorn]

Originally Posted by tkeman89

We have had one raid and most of the guys showed up.. Attendance is pretty good.

That wasn't what you said in your earlier post about trying to save your failing chapter. I think you know the answer to your question. Just look at some of the things you said there.

Originally Posted by tkeman89

Sororities were starting to look at us and we were doing good at getting events, but we never really had a good amount of guys to build solid relations. We had GFB, a medium tier sorority, become very close with us and would come hang out at our house every once in a while.

This started to give us the reputation of being a "nerd/creeper" house that followed us throughout the year.

Sororities stopped hanging out with us and we had little money to throw raids or big parties. Every event we threw was horrible: parties became saussage fests

The same is said of sorority events. We have had 1 in house raid this quarter and only %30 of the chapter showed up. The sorority has already stated that they pissed off that only a few guys came and they felt stupid bringing their own chapter and will likely not do events with us again: And this was the only sorority willing to do events with us.

Or reputation is still very bad though it has recovered from last year because we recruited a good looking pledge class and our social chair has been good with contacting sororities and trying to maintain some sort of relations. Unfortunately we have so little money that we can't throw many events and when we do throw them less than half of our chapter shows up.

I do not wear my letters around school anymore because of our bad rep. and I find that I get farther with girls if I don't mention I'm in TKE.

[ASTalumna06]

^^ Didn't even notice that it was the same person that's already received advice concerning this very same thing. And I believe I wrote a novel responding to his other post.

[Elephant Walk]

I get farther with girls if I don't mention I'm in TKE.

A common lament across America.

[NutBrnHair]

LOL

[agzg]

Like that one's not going to be deleted, too.