U. of New Mexico Suspends Sigma Alpha Epsilon

[jon1856]

A follow up story:
http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/aug...say-troubled-/
Greek students at the University of New Mexico say troubled fraternities spoil image

[DeltAlum]

Take a look at the responses following the article on the link in Jon's post just above.

While one would seem to ballance the other, they both indicate to me that we, as a system, have a serious problem.

The fact that our philanthropy work isn't well known is NOT the fault of any media or reporter. It's ours for not getting the word out constantly.

But that's a whole other topic that has been talked to death before in this and other forums.

Plus, as the first writer mentions, these are alleged felonies we're talking about.

The other thing we just will never get away from is that most of the things that get chapters closed are against the law -- although not necessarily felonies.

I'm a little past the point of thinking than many undergraduates understand what the consequences of that means.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by DeltAlum

Take a look at the responses following the article on the link in Jon's post just above.

While one would seem to ballance the other, they both indicate to me that we, as a system, have a serious problem.

The fact that our philanthropy work isn't well known is NOT the fault of any media or reporter. It's ours for not getting the word out constantly.

But that's a whole other topic that has been talked to death before in this and other forums.

Plus, as the first writer mentions, these are alleged felonies we're talking about.

The other thing we just will never get away from is that most of the things that get chapters closed are against the law -- although not necessarily felonies.

I'm a little past the point of thinking than many undergraduates understand what the consequences of that means.

DeltAlum while I have railed about how the news media has handled GLO situations I am right to an extent.

It has to be sensational to be of new or it will not get on air or printed. But basically, whose true fault is it? Ours as GLO's, perioid.

Alledge accusations is really a BS deal, people only beleive what they see or hear, not alledged.

As I have said many times, We are our own worst enemies.

SAE and some others seem to be leaders of the pack. Why? I do not know?

But, whether it is SAE or others, it has to stop.

We are supposedly a dieing breed. I would hate to see that.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

DeltAlum while I have railed about how the news media has handled GLO situations I am right to an extent.

It has to be sensational to be of new or it will not get on air or printed. But basically, whose true fault is it? Ours as GLO's, period.

Allege accusations is really a BS deal, people only believe what they see or hear, not alleged.

As I have said many times, We are our own worst enemies.

SAE and some others seem to be leaders of the pack. Why? I do not know?

But, whether it is SAE or others, it has to stop.

We are supposedly a dieing breed. I would hate to see that.

Tom;
You of all people should have known when to stop. Your first 4 paragraphs were just fine and should have stood alone.

After that, you just followed the same path that the media (or parts of it at least) follow.

Thus seemingly defeating your own argument.

[DeltAlum]

Can anyone get past pointing at the media?

A kid is dead, and that's a news story. The death is being investigated as a possible crime which is also a news story.

How, or if, the media is slanted really isn't the issue here. Whether the young man died because of hazing or alcohol is. The local authorities seem to believe that there is at least some legitimate evidence pointing to beating with bamboo and wood and underaged alcohol consumption.

Folks, I don't know how many times I've said it, but if there wasn't a story there would be no news coverage -- sensationalized or otherwise.

We aren't going to solve any problems -- and we have significant ones -- if we don't stop pointing our fingers at the media, the university administration, society in general or little green men and women. We have to address the ongoing problems that we ALL know exist.

We can't keep breaking the law, no matter how unfair the law may be, and expecting to get away with it.