Good Fraternities at Mississippi State?

[statedawg]

What are some of the reputations of the different fraternities at Mississippi State? I want to go through rush in the fall, but they all look the same to me. Thanks.

Well, I don't go to Mississippi State, nor do I know anything about it, but the whole point of rush is so you can find these things out for yourself. You are the one that should decide which fraternity is the "good one" and not just listen to someone on some message board. Once you meet all the members and find out more about each fraternity they wont all look the same to you and one or two will stand out as not the best one, but the best one for you.

[statedawg]

Thanks for your reply, Jessica. I plan to keep my eyes open during rush, but it would be extremely helpful to hear public opinion on some of these chapters so I have a better idea of their reputations. Even the worst groups can put on a good show during rush.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by statedawg

Thanks for your reply, Jessica. I plan to keep my eyes open during rush, but it would be extremely helpful to hear public opinion on some of these chapters so I have a better idea of their reputations. Even the worst groups can put on a good show during rush.

Everyone will have their own POV's.
Just keep your eyes and ears open and your wits about you. And ask questions.

Originally Posted by statedawg

Thanks for your reply, Jessica. I plan to keep my eyes open during rush, but it would be extremely helpful to hear public opinion on some of these chapters so I have a better idea of their reputations. Even the worst groups can put on a good show during rush.

I don't understand what you mean by "good show."

[SWTXBelle]

Opinions are just that - opinions. You need to trust yourself and your ability to judge a group as to what you are looking for in a brotherhood.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by jessicaelaine

I don't understand what you mean by "good show."

Well, it means just that, bad houses will put on a good show during rush to try to hide the fact that they are a bad house. They will only bring out what they would consider thei best members, talk the house up a bunch, etc.

This is the problem with Greekchat...............some of you need to realize that there are going to be shitty chapters at schools. Cut it with all of the "each house is good and unique in its own way and blah blah blah" crap.

Statedawg, I can find out which houses houses are good there. I'll reply back .

[Kevin]

That's sort of the NIC/NPC disconnect. Sorority members will seldom put in print that they think a chapter of one organization is better than another.

I think Sigma Nu just started a recolonization effort Mississippi State. Generally speaking, being in a colony is hard work. We're recolonizing every SEC chapter though, so I don't think they would have moved without some significant $$ to back them.

They won't be the biggest or win the most awards (if any) and I don't know what kind of guys they'll get (our consultants generally do a pretty good job) but the colony experience is pretty unique. I wouldn't trade it for standard pledging. But to each his own.

Good luck.

Originally Posted by macallan25

Well, it means just that, bad houses will put on a good show during rush to try to hide the fact that they are a bad house. They will only bring out what they would consider thei best members, talk the house up a bunch, etc.

This is the problem with Greekchat...............some of you need to realize that there are going to be shitty chapters at schools. Cut it with all of the "each house is good and unique in its own way and blah blah blah" crap.

Statedawg, I can find out which houses houses are good there. I'll reply back .

I don't see how a fraternity could hide the fact they are a "bad house" whatever that means. Maybe they can razzel dazzel a pnm with girls, alcohol, trophies, or whatever else, but anyone that is attracted to a fraternity because of those reasons is a tool bag.

[jwsteele]

Originally Posted by jessicaelaine

I don't see how a fraternity could hide the fact they are a "bad house" whatever that means. Maybe they can razzel dazzel a pnm with girls, alcohol, trophies, or whatever else, but anyone that is attracted to a fraternity because of those reasons is a tool bag.

I could not disagree more. That's ridiculous. As an incoming freshmen, the vast majority of guys coming into a school are going to want to be a part of something succesful. I was looking for brotherhood and a great group of guys that I shared a lot in common with. That being said, I also wanted to be part of a house that was at least a prominent force on campus where I could meet girls and play on good athletic intramural teams and have the money to throw huge events. If a house had great guys that I shared everything with I would obviously consider them even if they didn't do much socially, but at schools where there are 15+ fraternities there's going to be more than one house where you fit in. Why would you join the organization that doesn't have the money or the guys to be succesful?

And I don't mean "join the most exclusive chapter on campus"...but it's ridiculous for you to think you can judge the HUGE majority of freshmen guys as "toolbags" for wanting to be able to drink with their brothers and make friends with girls. That's pretty arrogant.

As a long time GC lurker I know that's not a way of thought many of you are likely to share. That's honestly how I feel though. You got to like the guys but you also have to be honest with yourself about what you are going to want in a fraternity experience and if the chapter you are considering will actually be able to provide it.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by jessicaelaine

I don't see how a fraternity could hide the fact they are a "bad house" whatever that means. Maybe they can razzel dazzel a pnm with girls, alcohol, trophies, or whatever else, but anyone that is attracted to a fraternity because of those reasons is a tool bag.

Oh come on, that is complete BS. If you ask every freshmen rushee what they are looking for in a house, it is going to be something along the lines of great reputation with top sororities, great parties, wealthy chapter, etc. That is a fact. I have been through, what 4 rushes, and I have yet to see a kid come through looking for "strong brotherhood, great philanthropy oppurtunities, etc." It just doesn't happen...and I have never expected to hear it from the young guys. They are 18 year old college freshmen for Christ's sake. Brotherhood is something you learn over time.

That is completely moronic to call them a bunch of "toolbags" for wanting to party and be around hot women. I'm sorry, but anyone who tells me that most guys don't think about that kind of stuff when they rush.....is a f**king liar. It happens, let's just leave it at that. I would go through a whole spiel about it....but judging from your posts I think you would just try to argue about it anyways. I'll spare myself.

Obviously though, you are a girl and have no idea how fraternities function.........so I wouldn't really expect you to know how bad chapters go about making themselves look good during rush. I wouldn't worry about it too much if I were you.

Originally Posted by jwsteele

I could not disagree more. That's ridiculous. As an incoming freshmen, the vast majority of guys coming into a school are going to want to be a part of something succesful. I was looking for brotherhood and a great group of guys that I shared a lot in common with. That being said, I also wanted to be part of a house that was at least a prominent force on campus where I could meet girls and play on good athletic intramural teams and have the money to throw huge events. If a house had great guys that I shared everything with I would obviously consider them even if they didn't do much socially, but at schools where there are 15+ fraternities there's going to be more than one house where you fit in. Why would you join the organization that doesn't have the money or the guys to be succesful?

And I don't mean "join the most exclusive chapter on campus"...but it's ridiculous for you to think you can judge the HUGE majority of freshmen guys as "toolbags" for wanting to be able to drink with their brothers and make friends with girls. That's pretty arrogant.

As a long time GC lurker I know that's not a way of thought many of you are likely to share. That's honestly how I feel though. You got to like the guys but you also have to be honest with yourself about what you are going to want in a fraternity experience and if the chapter you are considering will actually be able to provide it.

The majority of the freshmen males at my school this year ARE tool bags (which is worse than just being a tool, it a combination of a tool and a douche bag).

And I joined my sorority when they had 3 members and about $100 in the bank. But I liked the girls and the ideals and values of the sorority and I saw the potential. And now, less than two years later we have 20 members and are the most active sorority on campus. So, the guys that are just expecting all these experiences to happen when joining a fraternity and don't think they're going to have to put any work into having parties that they like and that they'll enjoy and they will remember for the rest of their lives are tool bags.

[macallan25]

Alright......well, I didn't realize that you went to a school like that. Remember that I go to an enormous school with a huge, prominent greek system. A sorority with only 20 members here wouldn't survive.

Obvioulsy our experiences with greek life are completely different.

[SWTXBelle]

Having been married to the president of a local - and then a chapter of Sigma Chi - I got to see that there are men who are not content with pledging the "top" house to drink and have "hot" girls. The men who formed this local - the president of SGA, an SGA supreme court judge, College Republicans president, etc. (my point - already involved and successful on campus) could have received bids from any top campus on chapter.
They formed the local because they knew there was a need for a chapter that DID focus on brotherhood. I cried when they received their charter, because I knew what it had taken to get it. I knew that the ideals and creed weren't just something they learned so they could party in their letters. Did they want to succeed socially and in competition with other greeks? Sure. But it wasn't their primary focus.
So while many might make the generalization that hey, all guys want is drinking buddies and a chance to score with girls, I have to say that my experience is different.
If this is your experience, hey, who am I to argue? That's your experience, and that's your brotherhood, and that's how you want to represent it. More power to you. But just don't make a gross generalization about all freshmen. I personally don't believe that all men are stupid. Argue with me if you want . . .
Asking for the reps of houses is so futile because it depends on who you ask. You can get concrete data - g.p.a., mixers, sports results - if that's what you want from visiting the websites of all the chapters. If that's what he wants, he would be better off collecting the data himself. Then he can narrow the number of chapters according to his personal criteria, and look for the guys he with whom he can bond.

[Leslie Anne]

Originally Posted by macallan25

Obviously though, you are a girl and have no idea how fraternities function.........so I wouldn't really expect you to know how bad chapters go about making themselves look good during rush. .

Hey, I'm a girl and I do know how fraternities work (to some extent) and I definitely know how sororities work even though it's forbidden to be honest about it here on Greekchat. For the sororities, that's probably a good thing.

I don't have a problem with statedawg's question. Although it won't tell you their reputations, you can get a fairly good idea about the fraternities here:
http://union.msstate.edu/involvement/greek.php

All but one of them has a chapter website. I just looked at them, saw the size of their member rosters, looked at photos, etc. I put myself in the place of guy going through rush and I was able to narrow the field considerably. Yes, this is just the superficial stuff, but you've got to start somewhere. Put that together with the info you get from macallan25 and you're pretty much go to go.

Best of luck to you~