Dirty Rushing and Consequences

[shadokat]

I was talking to a friend yesterday who told me that on the campus where she advises, there is a huge dirty rushing issues with one of the groups. The group got in trouble last year, had to do a recruitment workshop and pay for it, but again, the group is back to their old ways.

I'm wondering if any of you have experienced this and what other sanctions may have/have not been effective.

[KSUViolet06]

On my campus, and I suppose most others, the chapters who dirty rush receive recruitment infractions which means they have to pay a fine to Panhellenic.

This is usually very effective because chapters don't budget for infractions, so they end up having to take the money from another area of the chapter budget (like formal, social, etc). Basically everybody is scared to death of getting an infraction because they know that losing $ to an infraction could take away from other fun things the chapter wants to have.

Also. depending on the situation, there could be more serious penalties. For example, if a sorority dirty rushed PNMs by hosting an alcohol party at their chapter house, that would also violate Panhellenic Risk Management policies. In addition to an infraction, the chapter would be placed on social probation which would prohibit them from participating Homecoming, Greek Week, or Songfest for a full year.

[fantASTic]

Dirty rush isn't a big deal on our campus, as far as I know. It is handled by a small fine.

However, as I posted in the other thread about dirty rushing, a school nearby promised an excessive amount of PNMs a bid and then bid less than half of them. They were restricted to only pledging five NMs a year for [I think] five years, or something crazy like that. Long enough to hurt them. I don't remember exactly how long.

It was crazy.

[Ivygirl8985]

Panhellenic can limit the number of women a chapter can pledge as punishment? I've never heard of that....!!

[kathykd2005]

Neither have I!!! I'm surprised their National Headquarters didn't throw down about this.

[fantASTic]

Originally Posted by kathykd2005

Neither have I!!! I'm surprised their National Headquarters didn't throw down about this.

This school only has locals, no national sororities. That may have had something to do with it. I believe they were on probation by the school at the time, too, for hazing that included:

1). Giving NMs a frozen hot dog and giving them 2 minutes to 'warm it up'.

2). Circle the fat, in a football field, by a fraternity. Then, they would have the NMs lay down on the ground, put raw meat on the circled parts, and bring out dogs to eat it off their bodies.

Sounds like an exaggeration, I know, but I know this because my best friend's little sister pledged there and ended up dropping because she couldn't take it.

[kathykd2005]

You have to click on the letter "A" above in the reply space. See, now I am writing in red.

[AnchorAlumna]

Originally Posted by Allona

How...How do you use pink? it is a very pretty color.

And very hard to read. I wish KSUViolet nothing but the best, but wish she'd use a darker color, LOL!

[Xidelt]

That seems like revenge, not punishment! That could really be a death sentence for a chapter! I thought the point was to deter the behavior in the future and get to the point of why it was happening with education, etc.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

NPC actually does not allow you to restrict the numbers (not to say it didn't happen, but it would have been in violation of the greenbook).

We had an incident where a chapter COB'd over total by five women. The following semester, we thought that quota should be reduced by five for them, and that was not allowed.

So of course, the lesson was to bid as many girls as you want, because their dues would be more than any fine your chapter had to pay.

[smiley21]

I know of one org., ABC, who accidently handed out a COR bid a day early (there was a specific that needed to pass between recruitment and COR). I believe it was truly an honest mistake, because there was a lot of miscommunication that year. Anyway, XYZ was not too fond of ABC in the first place, so XYZ reported ABC to Panhellenic. ABC's punishment was to not only revoke that bid, but also tell her about XYZ's COR events. Guess what happened? The girl joined XYZ.

[Xylochick216]

Fining isn't always effective. Some chapters at my alma mater would budget the fines into each year's budget because they knew they'd get their list to Panhellenic way too late. I forget what the fine was per hour, but they would hand in their list along with their fine at the same time.

[AnatraAmore]

Even at my small school, we've run into problems with certain groups COB'ing over total - fines have not had an effect because those 4 or 5 women's dues make up by far the fines that are handed down. Panhellenic has recently started requiring chapters who have infractions to hold workshops in preparation for recruitment for all of the sororities which review the Green Book rules on recruitment. But it still hasn't helped...

[MaggieXi]

Originally Posted by Xylochick216

Fining isn't always effective. Some chapters at my alma mater would budget the fines into each year's budget because they knew they'd get their list to Panhellenic way too late. I forget what the fine was per hour, but they would hand in their list along with their fine at the same time.

The fining thing really worked at Elon when it came to turning lists in on time. However, when I was there when an actual rush infraction occured (XYZ was giving pnms beer at a bar in front of 4 rho chis -- their defense was that they didn't think the rho chis could report the infraction because the rho chis were dissafiliated...) Their consequence was they had to put on a "Panhellenic Spirit Workshop" as a new member workshop. I believe that XYZ group had to pay for the speaker to come and what not, so I guess it cost them a lot of money.

[shadokat]

From what my friend told me, the group invited women to a party at an off-campus party at an apartment of a member, and also one of the recruitment counselors lived there. So not only was there the party, but now the RC's affiliation is known. The RC volunteered to resign, because she said she didn't want to cause any problems, and that she didn't know about the party, but Panhel has left her stay as an RC.

Also, she said she felt that no matter what the sanction, this group is basically not going to care. They have alienated all of the other NPCs, they hang out with only the 2 largest fraternities. If they lost social privileges, they'd do unregistered mixers at apartments...fines would just be paid. It just seems there is no win here.