Really Need Help w/ Recs! I'm confused!

[sweetgirl424]

Hey everyone!
I am planning on rushing this fall as a freshman, so I have started thinking about getting recommendations. It seems like a big deal at the school I will be going to. I don't know where to start though, because I can't figure out where my local Panhellenic Association is? Also, I don't know who I could ask for recommendations.. I am starting to get frustrated, and I really could use anyone's help!

I live In Fort Smith, Arkansas.. and plan on attending the University of Arkansas in Fayetteville this fall. If anyone can help me out, I would greatly appreciate it!!!
Thank You!!

Originally Posted by sweetgirl424

Hey everyone!
I am planning on rushing this fall as a freshman, so I have started thinking about getting recommendations. It seems like a big deal at the school I will be going to. I don't know where to start though, because I can't figure out where my local Panhellenic Association is? Also, I don't know who I could ask for recommendations.. I am starting to get frustrated, and I really could use anyone's help!

I live In Fort Smith, Arkansas.. and plan on attending the University of Arkansas in Fayetteville this fall. If anyone can help me out, I would greatly appreciate it!!!
Thank You!!

http://www.npcwomen.org/alumnae/a_directory.php

Email NPCCentral@npcwomen.org to obtain the current Association President's name and mailing address.

Please provide reason for requesting contact and/or information.

[irishpipes]

Originally Posted by sweetgirl424

Hey everyone!
I am planning on rushing this fall as a freshman, so I have started thinking about getting recommendations. It seems like a big deal at the school I will be going to. I don't know where to start though, because I can't figure out where my local Panhellenic Association is? Also, I don't know who I could ask for recommendations.. I am starting to get frustrated, and I really could use anyone's help!

I live In Fort Smith, Arkansas.. and plan on attending the University of Arkansas in Fayetteville this fall. If anyone can help me out, I would greatly appreciate it!!!
Thank You!!

You will definitely need recs to all sororities at the U of A. I would ask your mom to help you - see if any of her friends or acquaintances are greek. Also ask your teachers, ladies from church, etc. Good luck!

[susan314]

Originally Posted by irishpipes

You will definitely need recs to all sororities at the U of A. I would ask your mom to help you - see if any of her friends or acquaintances are greek. Also ask your teachers, ladies from church, etc. Good luck!

This is a good suggestion - you might be pleasantly surprised to realize that you already do have a connection with some NPC women. (Or even that they could put you in touch with women who are Greek.) I'd also add to the list - neighbors, families you've babysat for regularly, your friends' parents, etc.

I'd be willing to bet that you know at least one or two NPC women, even if you don't realize it!

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by susan314

This is a good suggestion - you might be pleasantly surprised to realize that you already do have a connection with some NPC women. (Or even that they could put you in touch with women who are Greek.) I'd also add to the list - neighbors, families you've babysat for regularly, your friends' parents, etc.

I'd be willing to bet that you know at least one or two NPC women, even if you don't realize it!

As susan314 noted, expand your list. As such - and I've said this before and I'll say it again - PNMs should check with male friends, family members and other male "connections" as well. Some might be married to an NPC member, have relatives that are members, and or have friends who are members.

From personal experience, I've been able to direct a few of my friends' daughters to NPC members who were then able to help them secure recommendations.

[SmartBlondeGPhB]

Originally Posted by OTW

http://www.npcwomen.org/alumnae/a_directory.php

Email NPCCentral@npcwomen.org to obtain the current Association President's name and mailing address.

Please provide reason for requesting contact and/or information.

You probably will want to reach out to the Alumnae Panhellenic in Fayetteville for help (I'd guess they are very used to being asked) and not rely just on Fort Smith.

[OrangeJuice]

Do you have older friends you can ask? I was able to get letters for tridelta and axo from some friends at other schools.

[SWTXBelle]

Don't forget to ask your favorite teachers, counselors, etc. - When I taught I was able to help many of my students get recs!

[OPhiAGinger]

Haven't recs really deviated a lot from their original purpose? Originally a rec was supposedly a way for an alumna who knows the PNM well to assure her GLO that the PNM would be an asset to the organization. There had to be a relationship between the alumna and the PNM, or it was meaningless.

Now recs seem to be given so casually, by friends of friends of your parents, or by an alum chapter member who meets the PNM for 15 minutes at Starbucks. How much meaning can those types of recs really provide in the membership selection process? Think of a job recommendation: would you ever provide a formal job recommendation for someone that you didn't know really well? I would not, and I think sorority recs should be treated the same way.

And to the alumnae who agree to provide recs to young women they don't know or don't know well: obviously you are doing the PNMs a big favor as they scramble to check off all the GLOs on their campus, but might you be doing your sorority a disservice?

[SWTXBelle]

I think most rec forms have a place where you indicate both how and how well you know the PNM. A rec from a friend of the family who has known the PNM for years is going to carry more weight than one from someone who is providing an "information only" rec.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by OPhiAGinger

Haven't recs really deviated a lot from their original purpose? Originally a rec was supposedly a way for an alumna who knows the PNM well to assure her GLO that the PNM would be an asset to the organization. There had to be a relationship between the alumna and the PNM, or it was meaningless.

Now recs seem to be given so casually, by friends of friends of your parents, or by an alum chapter member who meets the PNM for 15 minutes at Starbucks. How much meaning can those types of recs really provide in the membership selection process? Think of a job recommendation: would you ever provide a formal job recommendation for someone that you didn't know really well? I would not, and I think sorority recs should be treated the same way.

And to the alumnae who agree to provide recs to young women they don't know or don't know well: obviously you are doing the PNMs a big favor as they scramble to check off all the GLOs on their campus, but might you be doing your sorority a disservice?

I think that the main thing is that rec. writer indicates the level of knowledge of the young woman. You make clear if you know her personally, for how long, etc, or if it's really more of an informative rec. without personal knowledge. But in most cases even a friend of a friend who did a little research would know anything that would keep a women from being an asset to the organization. If you hometown reputation was terrible, a hometown rec. writer would probably know it. (For example a girl from my hometown who embezzled from her part time job probably would have a hard time getting a strong hometown rec.)

In a lot of cases, it's just a question of finding out the affiliations of the people that you do already know. Unless you're from an area without a lot of female college graduates, you probably know more people who are greek than you realize.

[KSUViolet06]

We seem to be getting alot of posts from girls who are frustrated with getting recs.

Girls, understand that gstting recs is going to be difficult, especially if you don't live in an area with lots of greek women or you don't have many greeks in your family.

It just takes persistence. You have to exhaust all of your available resources & contacts. Think of EVERY place you go regularly where there are women who know you well. Any of them could be a sorority alumna.

Some of these places include:

*school (teachers, counselors, coaches)
*church or other place of worship ( sorority women might attend your church service or lead your bible study)
*camps you attend(ed)(your camp counselors might be sorority women)
*work(co-workers or their family members might be greek)
*your parents(their co-workers or friends)

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by OrangeJuice

Do you have older friends you can ask? I was able to get letters for tridelta and axo from some friends at other schools.

Many orgs do not accept recs from active collegians.

[susan314]

Originally Posted by OPhiAGinger

Now recs seem to be given so casually, by friends of friends of your parents, or by an alum chapter member who meets the PNM for 15 minutes at Starbucks. How much meaning can those types of recs really provide in the membership selection process? Think of a job recommendation: would you ever provide a formal job recommendation for someone that you didn't know really well? I would not, and I think sorority recs should be treated the same way.

And to the alumnae who agree to provide recs to young women they don't know or don't know well: obviously you are doing the PNMs a big favor as they scramble to check off all the GLOs on their campus, but might you be doing your sorority a disservice?

I disagree. I can't speak for any other organization's rec form, but our rec form asks specifically how well you know the PNM. The chapter receiving the rec knows what level of knowledge the rec is based on and considers it accordingly. This is why PNMs on GreekChat are encouraged to exhaust all sources who know them well for recs before resorting to going through the local Alumnae Panhellenic or other contacts who wouldn't know them personally.

If a young woman in my community wanted to meet me for the purpose of obtaining a rec letter, I'd be happy to oblige. However, the rec letter would certainly not carry as much weight as one from someone who has known her/her family for years, and I'd make sure to let her know that. If she had no other options and felt that recs were a necessity at her school, I'd assist her. I don't feel that it would be doing a disservice to my organization, because they would be well aware of the level of my acquaintence with her.

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Many orgs do not accept recs from active collegians.

Really? I thought there were more orgs who do allow their collegians to write recs than those who don't.

Alpha Gamma Delta collegians are allowed to write them. If I'm not mistaken (and I recall reading this somewhere on GC), Kappa Delta does too. I thought I saw a list of sororities that do allow recs from collegians, but I couldn't find it.