Who will be on the Steroid Users List?

[Benzgirl]

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7558564

Aside from Barry Bonds, who do you think will make the list?

[DSTCHAOS]

That depends. What's the prize for making the list?

[starang21]

apparently clemens and pettite is on it. i wonder if they'll put an asterisk with all of his awards and his HOF bust.

[starang21]

he's on now.

[Benzgirl]

You know, they pulled Marion Jones' gold medals and are considering pulling her teammates. It almost seems as if some of the World Series pennants should take similar punishment. Although, Marion admitted to usage. This is just the "black book"

[Benzgirl]

I was expecting the list to be larger, based on the news reports:

This is from SI.com...
“Roger Clemens, Miguel Tejada and Andy Pettitte were named in the long-awaited Mitchell Report on Thursday, an All-Star roster linked to steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs that put a question mark -- if not an asterisk -- next to some of baseball's biggest moments.
Barry Bonds, already under indictment on charges of lying to a federal grand jury about steroids, and Gary Sheffield also showed up in baseball's most infamous lineup since the Black Sox scandal.”
“Besides Clemens and Pettitte, other ex-Yankees named include Mike Stanton, Chuck Knoblauch and Jason Grimsley. Orioles second baseman Brian Roberts also is in the report, as is Yankees and Braves postseason hero David Justice.
Other players include: Troy Glaus, Gary Matthews Jr., Rick Ankiel, Jay Gibbons, Mo Vaughn, Paul Lo Duca, Eric Gagne, Glenallen Hill, Gregg Zaun, Rondell White, Hal Morris, Todd Hundley, Larry Bigbie, Lenny Dykstra, David Segui, Matt Herges, Kevin Brown, Mike Lansing, Wally Joyner, Nook Logan, Jeremy Giambi, Benito Santiago, Denny Neagle, Ron Villone, Fernando Vina, Todd Pratt, Jack Cust, Matt Williams, John Rocker, Paul Byrd, F.P. Santangelo and Randy Velarde. “

...I see John Rocker returns.

[nittanyalum]

NNNOOOOOoooooooooo!!!!! Not my Andy!!!

That makes me sad.

[southernfrat]

honestly who cares if they take steroids? they are entertainers and a lot of those names listed have kept me entertained over the past 15 years. i think steroid use on the college level or in sports with physical contact should be illegal and those violators should be punished accordingly. but major league baseball is all about homeruns and who can throw the hardest. without these two aspects baseball would be on the same downfall that hockey saw. i wouldn't even doubt that the commissioners and whoever else knew these players were taking steroids but just turned the other cheek because they were bringing attention and revenue to the game. it is all a business and on some level a show. if these athletes are going to get in trouble than i want to see a similar report conducted for hollywood actors and stars, and punishments to be handed down to so called "stars" that have used steroids for a role

[sageofages]

It is sad indeed...but frankly, after the strike, I quit watching baseball.

I just want to shout at all of them...didn't anyone pay attention to Lyle Alzado's torturous demise , even if the dr said it could not be so...makes you wonder.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyle_Alzado

Alzado is probably most remembered today for being one of the first major U.S. sports figures to admit to abuse of steroids. In the last years of his life, as he battled against the brain tumor that eventually caused his death at the age of 43, Alzado asserted that his steroid abuse directly led to his fatal illness, but his physician stated it could not possibly be true. Alzado was using natural growth hormone, harvested from human corpses, as opposed to synthetic growth hormones. Alzado is buried at River View Cemetery in Portland.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by southernfrat

honestly who cares if they take steroids? they are entertainers and a lot of those names listed have kept me entertained over the past 15 years. i think steroid use on the college level or in sports with physical contact should be illegal and those violators should be punished accordingly. but major league baseball is all about homeruns and who can throw the hardest. without these two aspects baseball would be on the same downfall that hockey saw. i wouldn't even doubt that the commissioners and whoever else knew these players were taking steroids but just turned the other cheek because they were bringing attention and revenue to the game. it is all a business and on some level a show. if these athletes are going to get in trouble than i want to see a similar report conducted for hollywood actors and stars, and punishments to be handed down to so called "stars" that have used steroids for a role

The problem is that if it's accepted that the pros take them, aspiring pros (read: college and high-schoolers) will follow their lead.

[Benzgirl]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

The problem is that if it's accepted that the pros take them, aspiring pros (read: college and high-schoolers) will follow their lead.

Ditto, Ditto, Ditto.
Not just that, but no one is on an equal playing field. That is why Independent, Random tests should be conducted of all pro athletes. I read an article regarding from an NBA player this year that he gets his advantage through good nutrition. He hired a chef to cook every meal for him and saw a nutritionist regularly

But then, Baseball is not quite the same. I think it was Babe Ruth that had such a love for hot dogs and cigarettes.

[southernfrat]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

Ditto, Ditto, Ditto.
Not just that, but no one is on an equal playing field. That is why Independent, Random tests should be conducted of all pro athletes. I read an article regarding from an NBA player this year that he gets his advantage through good nutrition. He hired a chef to cook every meal for him and saw a nutritionist regularly

But then, Baseball is not quite the same. I think it was Babe Ruth that had such a love for hot dogs and cigarettes.

I was saying that in MLB who cares if they take steroids. In high school it is the parents and coaches responsibility to make sure the players are not using steroids. In college the NCAA is pretty tough on steroids, and it once again falls on the coaches also to make sure players are not using steroids. steroids have been in MLB for over 20 years and the natural beauty of baseball is tarnished and gone. records are gone due to this rampant use but baseball has become more appealing to the general public.

In all other sports steroids give a far and away advantage as they are more physically demanding (i.e. basketball players with jumping and rebounding; football players...well that's self-explanatory; hockey players with hitting the puck at a goalie and hitting eachother, not to mention they already fight all the time). Steroid use in these sports should have major punishments

[PhiGam]

I personally like to see low scoring defensive battles and well pitched games when I watch baseball.
Heres a very interesting video on steroids, a segment from HBO's real sports.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=0

Steroids aren't as unhealthy as you may think.

[Thetagirl218]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

You know, they pulled Marion Jones' gold medals and are considering pulling her teammates. It almost seems as if some of the World Series pennants should take similar punishment. Although, Marion admitted to usage. This is just the "black book"

I cried inside when they pulled Marion Jones' medals. She was a role model to me and many girls who had dreams of becoming runners...

[Tom Earp]

What some must remember is that a certain date, it was not illegal!

Now, it is?