A SPY AMONG US!! BROTHERS BEWARE....

BROTHERSKEEPER · #1 07-05-2007, 12:45 AM

Greetings Brothers,

I recently interviewed for a position within the company I have worked for over ten years now. The position was in another department headed by an executive who also happened to be an ALPHA. We touched basis on both of us being Alphas. I also followed the necessary steps outlined by this executive four months earlier leading up to this interview. To make a long story short, I was shocked to find out I was not selected for the position after the interview. I was qualified for the position and had an outstanding interview based on the feedback following the interview. In addition, I was not the only Alpha to interview for the position. The part that really hurt, the BROTHER hired a white male. This has caused me to question my allegiance to Alpha Phi Alpha. I thought the purpose was to reach back and help one another. If not another Alpha Man, another black male if better qualified for the job.

What up with the spy among us?? Has anyone experienced this same type of situation. I need help to get through this situation. I want to return in my pin and letters.

yangstar · #2 07-05-2007, 04:53 AM

I'm not going to doubt that you were qualified and I'm sorry you didn't get the position, but perhaps the man hired for the job was more qualified or fit better into the job than you did? I know the feeling of really clicking with the interviewer and feeling that I'm well qualified and ready to work for and with these people, and then I find out that I wasn't hired. It happens all the time though sadly.

AlphaFrog · #3 07-05-2007, 07:34 AM

I'm sorry Alphas...I know this is your forum and all, but I gotta say it:

1985 called, it wants its mentality back.

DSTKellie · #4 07-05-2007, 09:26 AM

Yeah I have to agree with every one else. I know its is unfortunate that you didn't get the job but I do hate when people assume that they should get a job because of affliation, race or something that is UNRELATED to the job. There are many other factors to considered when one is hiring and after taking in all of these considerations the other guy who happen to be a white male was hired. So just deal with it. Now you are questioning your ties with Alpha because of one man?

DSTdimepiece · #5 07-05-2007, 09:50 AM

If that's all it takes to question allegiance, I question your original allegiance.

DSTCHAOS · #6 07-05-2007, 10:41 AM

I question your allegiance to logic and reason.

BROTHERSKEEPER · #7 07-05-2007, 10:45 AM

I put this out there obviously to get some outside opinions. I work for a company where NEPOTISM seems to be the rule and not the exception. I feel I was qualified for the job and was misled by this executive. We had conversations in regards to him not wanting to be known as a person who only hires black people or his fraternity brothers. For the record, he has not hire a black person into his department ever. The white male was selected strictly through NEPOTISM and not on qualifications. I still find myself working three times as hard as my white counterparts just to survive.

I feel if you can reach back, reach back and help another brother or sister. I speak it and live it.

_Lisa_ · #8 07-05-2007, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BROTHERSKEEPER

The white male was selected strictly through NEPOTISM and not on qualifications.

Because you were not the interviewer it is nearly impossible for you to say why the other person was selected for the position. Your original post was the most racist thing I've read on GC in the longest time. Its really a shame.

Professor · #9 07-05-2007, 10:58 AM

Frat,

I understand your concern. However, the hiring manager is only one Brother and not Alpha Phi Alpha, Inc. as a whole. Often managers have other forces influencing decions and while I don't know the particulars, I don't understand why you would hold our beloved fraternity with ill feelings. I suggest that you contact the Brother and asks how can better prepare to get the job that you desire.

DSTCHAOS · #10 07-05-2007, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BROTHERSKEEPER

I put this out there obviously to get some outside opinions. I work for a company where NEPOTISM seems to be the rule and not the exception. I feel I was qualified for the job and was misled by this executive. We had conversations in regards to him not wanting to be known as a person who only hires black people or his fraternity brothers. For the record, he has not hire a black person into his department ever. The white male was selected strictly through NEPOTISM and not on qualifications.

You wanted to be chosen by a black man because he's an Alpha. That's nepotism. You mentioned your qualifications as an aside.

If your company as EEOC policies and you feel unfairly overlooked, take that approach. Leave the 1906/Black Man Nepotism defense out of the equation.

However, if you can't PROVE that you were more qualified and that the other man was chosen via nepotism, save your time.

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Originally Posted by BROTHERSKEEPER

I still find myself working three times as hard as my white counterparts just to survive.

Well, welcome to old news, brutha. But you as a hard working qualified man will also get ahead if you have people in the right places. It just didn't work that way for you this time around. You seem young (an older man probably wouldn't post what you posted on here), so there's still time.

DSTCHAOS · #11 07-05-2007, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by _Lisa_

Your original post was the most racist thing I've read on GC in the longest time.

That's utterly ridiculous. You clearly don't know what "racism" is so spare us with the racism claims.

_Lisa_ · #12 07-05-2007, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

That's utterly ridiculous. You clearly don't know what "racism" is so spare us with the racism claims.

Racism rears its head in many ugly forms, one of them being "discrimination or prejudice based on race." (See the dictionary for other definitions of the word 'racism.') The original poster was offended that his brother was not prejudiced against the person who was offered the position:

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Originally Posted by BROTHERSKEEPER

The part that really hurt, the BROTHER hired a white male.

AlphaFrog · #13 07-05-2007, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BROTHERSKEEPER

I work for a company where NEPOTISM seems to be the rule and not the exception.

Welcome to the real world. My boss' son makes more in a week than I do in a month, and us peons have yet to figure out what he actually DOES all day, besides spend company money on expensive lunches and technology.

Drolefille · #14 07-05-2007, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by _Lisa_

Racism rears its head in many ugly forms, one of them being "discrimination or prejudice based on race." (See the dictionary for other definitions of the word 'racism.') The original poster was offended that his brother was not prejudiced against the person who was offered the position:

It all gets down to the academic use of the word racism and the dictionary/common use of the word. I think it's silly to expect everyone to use it only in the academic context.

DSTCHAOS · #15 07-05-2007, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

I think it's silly to expect everyone to use it only in the academic context.

My definition isn't THE academic definition, since there is more than one academic definition.

I think it's silly that people throw the "racist/racism" word around just because they are offended by something that has some racial references.