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Old 07-05-2007, 10:53 AM
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The white male was selected strictly through NEPOTISM and not on qualifications.

Because you were not the interviewer it is nearly impossible for you to say why the other person was selected for the position. Your original post was the most racist thing I've read on GC in the longest time. Its really a shame.
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Old 07-05-2007, 11:15 AM
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Your original post was the most racist thing I've read on GC in the longest time.
That's utterly ridiculous. You clearly don't know what "racism" is so spare us with the racism claims.
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Old 07-05-2007, 11:25 AM
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That's utterly ridiculous. You clearly don't know what "racism" is so spare us with the racism claims.
Racism rears its head in many ugly forms, one of them being "discrimination or prejudice based on race." (See the dictionary for other definitions of the word 'racism.') The original poster was offended that his brother was not prejudiced against the person who was offered the position:

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The part that really hurt, the BROTHER hired a white male.
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Old 07-05-2007, 12:27 PM
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Racism rears its head in many ugly forms, one of them being "discrimination or prejudice based on race." (See the dictionary for other definitions of the word 'racism.') The original poster was offended that his brother was not prejudiced against the person who was offered the position:
It all gets down to the academic use of the word racism and the dictionary/common use of the word. I think it's silly to expect everyone to use it only in the academic context.
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Old 07-05-2007, 01:11 PM
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I think it's silly to expect everyone to use it only in the academic context.
My definition isn't THE academic definition, since there is more than one academic definition.

I think it's silly that people throw the "racist/racism" word around just because they are offended by something that has some racial references.
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Old 07-05-2007, 02:00 PM
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My definition isn't THE academic definition, since there is more than one academic definition.

I think it's silly that people throw the "racist/racism" word around just because they are offended by something that has some racial references.
True and I never said it was, but you act as if most people should adhere to your definition or they don't understand racism. There are multiple academic definitions but in general, in academia, racism is though of along power structures and only the majority can be considered "racist"

In society, it isn't seen the same way and racism is something that also happens at the individual level no matter the race of the racist.
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Old 07-05-2007, 03:05 PM
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you act as if most people should adhere to your definition or they don't understand racism.
Exactly and they don't understand racism 95% of the time.

The proof is in the fact that someone is wasting a very powerful construct on a GC post.
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Old 07-05-2007, 03:49 PM
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Exactly and they don't understand racism 95% of the time.

The proof is in the fact that someone is wasting a very powerful construct on a GC post.
I'm not saying I agree with calling this post racist. More that he was stupid to complain about nepotism and then expect it, even if the nepotism he wanted wasn't because of his brotherhood, but because of his skin color.

However, using the common/dictionary definition of racism in non-academic discussion is not indicative of one's understanding of racism. It's simply using the word with its actual meaning, not a constructed one. There are plenty of similar words and concepts that this can happen to, it's just annoying that people are expected to be "beyond" the actual definition of a word in discussions.

I would, however, laugh if the white man hired was also an Alpha. It would just be a nice little twist, IMO.
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Old 07-05-2007, 02:01 PM
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I think it's silly that people throw the "racist/racism" word around just because they are offended by something that has some racial references.
I would hate the same, but this example you've given is not the case in reference to my comment.

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Old 07-05-2007, 03:06 PM
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I would hate the same, but this example you've given is not the case in reference to my comment.
It is from where I'm sitting.
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Old 07-05-2007, 03:09 PM
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It is from where I'm sitting.
Thats fine, I can't control how you feel about posts that aren't your own.
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Old 07-05-2007, 01:32 PM
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Your original post was the most racist thing I've read on GC in the longest time. Its really a shame.
Then you must not have been reading GC lately.
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Old 07-05-2007, 01:57 PM
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Then you must not have been reading GC lately.
Those that are known to make racist, ignorant, inappropriate comments are on ignore. GC is a lot tamer that way, I'll admit.
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Old 07-09-2007, 01:29 PM
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LOL...you all are overlooking the most important component of this thread.

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This has caused me to question my allegiance to Alpha Phi Alpha.
All the other stuff is just a run of the mill dose of reality. THIS part is the realness.
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Old 07-09-2007, 01:44 PM
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LOL...you all are overlooking the most important component of this thread.
I find this one rather key to the thread as well:

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I hope you don't blame the entire fraternity for this dude's failure to keep his obligation.
I don't know about Alpha Phi Alpha, but nowhere in my Ritual was the requirement to hire a sister if in the postion to do so. If I was choosing between two candiates, one being a sister, and the other better qualified, I'm going with the better qualified.
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