Is marriage really sacred anymore?

swissmiss04 · #1 05-02-2004, 12:29 PM

We've had quite a lot of discussion about gay marriage. Some are for. Others against. Good arguments on both sides. I personally am still on the fence, but ultimately, marriage is about love. Which brings me to the point of starting this thread...
Do you believe that marriages for reasons other than love (money, lust, neediness, citizenship) are as bad if not worse than gay marriage? Many marriages that originate from the above mentioned roots often end in divorce, which is also something that people have religious beliefs about. I feel that the way people get married nowadays shows a decline in our society just as much as some people believe gay marriage does. Discuss.

valkyrie · #2 05-02-2004, 12:50 PM

I think people should get married for any reason they darn well feel like it -- who am I to say that someone's reason for getting married is wrong? It doesn't bother me if someone gets married for citizenship, neediness, lust or money -- I don't see how any of that is worse than, say, getting married because someone gets knocked up or staying together for "the sake of the children." I used to wish my parents would get divorced because all they ever did was fight and it was awful.

To me, marriage isn't sacred because I don't consider anything sacred. I also don't think that divorce is such a big deal -- if you're not happy, I don't see the point of staying married. It's not good for you or the other person.

Rudey · #3 05-02-2004, 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
Uncalled for, Rudey. That's just a personal attack. There's nothing wrong with this thread.

To answer the question from my perspective only, I don't know whether "sacred" is the right word. I think what is missing is committment. We are committed to our marriage and it has lasted almost 34 years.

Seems to me that if the committment is there, marriage will survive no matter if it's same sex, opposite sex, inter-racial, etc.

I don't understand how marrying for money or convenience or whatever has much of a chance.

It was an honest question...no attack. I like knowing what people write their admissions essays on. I mean she did apply and she did get in so where's the attack?

-Rudey

valkyrie · #4 05-02-2004, 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
It was an honest question...no attack. I like knowing what people write their admissions essays on. I mean she did apply and she did get in so where's the attack?

Why not ask her via PM since your personal interest in her admissions essay has absolutely nothing to do with anything?

Rudey · #5 05-02-2004, 01:06 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
Why not ask her via PM since your personal interest in her admissions essay has absolutely nothing to do with anything?

Well perhaps you should follow your own philosophy and send me a pm? I guess we're all a little bit guilty here...now aren't we?

-Rudey

DeltAlum · #6 05-02-2004, 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
It was an honest question...no attack. I like knowing what people write their admissions essays on.

I think your history with this poster would lead the common reader to believe otherwise.

Rudey · #7 05-02-2004, 01:29 PM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
I think your history with this poster would lead the common reader to believe otherwise.

I like to ask questions. I was always the inquisitive child. And I have no history with anyone sweetums.

-Rudey

PhiPsiRuss · #8 05-02-2004, 01:48 PM

Marriage was never really sacred. I believe that the actual practice of marriage was far less sacred in centuries past than it is today. The idea of marrying someone for love is a relatively recent development. As I see it, the only use for marriage is to provide a stable environment for children.

swissmiss04 · #9 05-02-2004, 01:52 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
I think people should get married for any reason they darn well feel like it -- who am I to say that someone's reason for getting married is wrong? It doesn't bother me if someone gets married for citizenship, neediness, lust or money -- I don't see how any of that is worse than, say, getting married because someone gets knocked up or staying together for "the sake of the children." I used to wish my parents would get divorced because all they ever did was fight and it was awful.

To me, marriage isn't sacred because I don't consider anything sacred. I also don't think that divorce is such a big deal -- if you're not happy, I don't see the point of staying married. It's not good for you or the other person.

True...I guess "sacred" isn't really the right word. Maybe special or meaningful would have been better. The point I was making is that some judge a couple (who happens to be gay) for wanting to be married when they really love each other. Society turns a blind eye to the couples who use marriage to fit their own needs. We have no right to tell people whether or not they can be married. Or divorced.

justamom · #10 05-02-2004, 08:10 PM

Is marriage sacred any more? For many probably not-but it should be.

Sacred doesn't JUST mean "holy", it also means devoted to one purpose or being held in the highest esteem. Today, I am disheartened by many of the attitudes presented on the boards.
Is nothing sacred anymore?