Design a pledge program!

DeltaBetaBaby · #1 01-10-2004, 04:01 PM

Okay, if you were new member educator for an org. of the OPPOSITE sex, what would you teach them in the pledge program?

For example, I think every frat should teach its pledges:

1. How to cook. REAL food, not putting a pizza in the oven.

2. Fashion basics. Match your shoes to your belt!

Little E · #2 01-10-2004, 05:03 PM

I don't even know what the fraternities teach their pledges... but this is probably general fraternity education. Afterall, at least AST, still does etiquitte lessons, as I assume most sororities do.

I think men (in general) need etiquitte, just as much as the sororities, in not more. By etiquitte, I mean not only tabel manners, but the formal dressing. How can gentlemen in fraterities, who I know NEED suits, not own one...?????? Kahkis and a blazer does not cut it.

Cleaning skills...how not to be a bad drunk...oh and hair grooming... sorry I"m not into this new hair gel craze. If you use less, it will work better.

PhiDelt649 · #3 01-10-2004, 05:14 PM

Wow...talk about stereotyping.....

We have 17 fraternities at Kent, and all of us dress appropriately. We have good manners when they are required (ie. in the prescence of parents, girls, etc), and excellent hygiene. I think this may stem from the fact that a lot of girls see brothers at their house, and base their judgement off of that. Yes, if you are around 20+ men who are in a brotherhood, they are going to talk freely.

Why change our ways just b/c an "outsider" is around?

As far as suits...why bother getting all dressed up? Its the male mentality my dear, we don't enjoy getting as dressed up as females. We will if the situation TRULY warrents it (ie. Founder's Day, Formals, etc)....but why dress up any other time? I think slacks/shirt/tie is just fine.

Finally, as for the gel thing? What guy still uses that shit? I use fibre, it doesn't shine like gel so it doesn't make your hair look greasy and what not. On top of that, one can of Crew fibre lasts for like...6 months.

Anyway....just my 2 cents. Ease up on the stereotyping though. You know the majority of Greeks hate to be stereotyped....

Tom Earp · #4 01-10-2004, 05:30 PM

What

If you have a Chapter of LXA locally and know any of them real well, ask to look at our Paedogogus, training manual.

Nothing secret in it.

It explains how to introduce people in the proper manner. how to dress, (Matching Shoes and Belt Colors), how to wear your Badge,and other things to be presentable in a public and formal way!

Unfortunately, the dress codes and wearing of letters and Badges seemed to have passed by the way side at many schools.

What a great way to advertise your Greek Organization and let others see you on campus. They may even be interested in joining!

Little E · #5 01-10-2004, 05:35 PM

...Can I point out that I am from the Mid-West and my school is... anti-conformist. This is just what I would say looking at the fraternities I know at my school. I'm in no way judging all fraternities. Some actually clean with stuff other than bleach.

I really don't mean this in anoverly serious way.

ps- yes guys still use gel here and have NO idea what crew is, let alone the differences in their products.

ISUKappa · #6 01-10-2004, 07:15 PM

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Originally posted by PhiDelt649
As far as suits...why bother getting all dressed up? Its the male mentality my dear, we don't enjoy getting as dressed up as females. We will if the situation TRULY warrents it (ie. Founder's Day, Formals, etc)....but why dress up any other time? I think slacks/shirt/tie is just fine.

There are plenty of women out there who complain about getting "dressed up" for formal chapter or formal dinner. Formals are a completely different barrel of monkeys, we get to buy something new and wear pretty dresses then!

PhiPsiRuss · #7 01-10-2004, 07:27 PM

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Originally posted by DeltaBetaBaby
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The term "frat" is pejorative, and one thing that all pledge education programs should due is to teach not to use it.

You know, like you don't call your mother a "moth" and you don't call your country a...

Glitter650 · #8 01-10-2004, 07:38 PM

well I have actually read part of the white diamond of Pi Kappa Phi... and I know there is a section on dressing in there... whether or not they choose to follow the suggestions in their pledge book is up to them... so I think what should be included in Fraternity Education is some dancing lessons... I mean there's (at least at my school) at lot of chances to dance being greek.. whether it's a formal or a more club like atmosphere and quite a few of the fraternity guys I know aren't comfortable dancing... I mean they don't need to know how to waltz but do some sort of lesson so they don't feel so uncomfortable and out of place at events where dancing will take place...

Taualumna · #9 01-10-2004, 08:21 PM

1. How to be a gentleman so they'd know how to treat women nicely

2. What every gentleman needs in his closet and why wearing pjs to class is not a good idea

3. Dancing lessons. Jerking your body on the dance floor may work at the clubs, but it definitely isn't a good idea at formals.

4. Etiquette lessons

5. Music lessons, specifically singing. Every guy should know how to seranade their girlfriends!!!!!!!!

Oh and much, much more.

PhiPsiRuss · #10 01-10-2004, 08:46 PM

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Originally posted by Taualumna
1. How to be a gentleman so they'd know how to treat women nicely

2. What every gentleman needs in his closet and why wearing pjs to class is not a good idea

3. Dancing lessons. Jerking your body on the dance floor may work at the clubs, but it definitely isn't a good idea at formals.

4. Etiquette lessons

5. Music lessons, specifically singing. Every guy should know how to seranade their girlfriends!!!!!!!!

1. Agreed

2. Why is wearing pjs to class not a good idea?

3. I needed this then, and I need this now.

4. Like not hanging a spoon from your nose at a banquet?

5. Give this one up. Most of us just can't sing.

Taualumna · #11 01-10-2004, 08:51 PM

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Originally posted by russellwarshay
1. Agreed

2. Why is wearing pjs to class not a good idea?

3. I needed this then, and I need this now.

4. Like not hanging a spoon from your nose at a banquet?

5. Give this one up. Most of us just can't sing.

2. Wearing PJs to class is just plain sloppy.

4. Hahaha

5. Most people aren't tone deaf either. Oh yeah, and it should say girlFRIEND, not girlFRIENDS. Unless, of course, an entire fraternity is seranading a sorority. But that just isn't really the same thing.

sugar and spice · #12 01-10-2004, 09:06 PM

I've read the DU pledge manual and a lot of this stuff -- particularly the ettiquette and the dressing part -- is covered. It's just that the boys don't always choose to follow it.

DeltaBetaBaby · #13 01-11-2004, 07:13 PM

I meant this thread to be totally goofy, so I apologize if that was lost on some people.

I would love to hear some guys chime in...instead of getting on the defensive, tell us what you would like all women to learn!

Oh, and Russell--1984 called...it wants its joke back.

Rudey · #14 01-11-2004, 07:16 PM

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Originally posted by DeltaBetaBaby
I would love to hear some guys chime in...instead of getting on the defensive, tell us what you would like all women to learn!

Felatio.

-Rudey

PhiPsiRuss · #15 01-11-2004, 07:17 PM

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Originally posted by DeltaBetaBaby
Oh, and Russell--1984 called...it wants its joke back.

The classics are always funny.