Politics

Professor · #1 12-10-2003, 05:57 PM

I'm sure that many of you have learned that Dean is asking Sen. Clinton to consider running as his VP. Two questions, is the US ready for a female VP and what are your thoughts about Sen. Clinton for VP.

Senusret I · #2 12-10-2003, 06:08 PM

Is America ready....mmmmmm, I think so.

Sen. Clinton......she's more than qualified, but I would rather see her finish out her term as Senator.

Although....she's not getting any younger....

I dunno. I think I'd rather see her just go all the way as President in '08.

CountryGurl · #3 12-10-2003, 06:19 PM

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Originally posted by Senusret I
Is America ready....mmmmmm, I think so.

Sen. Clinton......she's more than qualified, but I would rather see her finish out her term as Senator.

Although....she's not getting any younger....

I dunno. I think I'd rather see her just go all the way as President in '08.

If Louisiana can elect a Woman for Govenor then YES the U.S. is more than ready to have a female VP. Especially if she is as qualified as Senator Clinton. I think she should run for VP it would put her on the right path for White House in '08.

Steeltrap · #4 12-10-2003, 06:28 PM

I suspect if Dean picks Sen. Clinton as V.P., he could get his clock cleaned by Gorgie Dubya Boosh

There are a lot of Sen. Clinton-haters in this country.

sphinxpoet · #5 12-10-2003, 06:34 PM

I think Hillary is an interesting choice but I think she needs a few more years under her belt before she should run for Pres or VP. Soror Steeltrap is right on there are a lot of haters. America as a climate is ready for certain things I think a female VP may be one of them. OF course if she chooses to run she would NOT be the first female to run for VP.

Sphinxpoet

TonyB06 · #6 12-10-2003, 07:02 PM

Strictly from a pragmantic point of view, if Dean picks Hillary, they would get blown out by Bush. In the general Dean will already have to fight back charges that he's too liberal for the mainstream of the electorate.

Put Hilllary on the ticket and as Steettrap suggested, all the folks that don't like her or "the Clintons" anyway, and that's too much to overcome to get elected, IMO.

Besides a huge boost in the female and minority vote populations (which as the presumptive D nominee he ought to have anyway), what does Hillary add? If he needs her to carry NY and the Northeast corridor he's toast anyway.

abaici · #7 12-11-2003, 02:08 AM

I agree. I am a Dean supporter and I feel that adding Sen. Clinton to the ticket would be detrimental. I am actually not too fond of the Gore endorsement. I'm not sure if his endorsement is really beneficial at this point or at all.

The question is: If not Hillary, than who?

Dean-Bush tidbit: George W. Bush's grandmother was one of Howard Dean's grandmother's bridesmaid

Professor · #8 12-11-2003, 10:10 AM

John Edwards - if anyone knows who he is - I'd love to move to DC and run the White House - lol

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Originally posted by abaici
I agree. I am a Dean supporter and I feel that adding Sen. Clinton to the ticket would be detrimental. I am actually not too fond of the Gore endorsement. I'm not sure if his endorsement is really beneficial at this point or at all.

The question is: If not Hillary, than who?

Dean-Bush tidbit: George W. Bush's grandmother was one of Howard Dean's grandmother's bridesmaid

TonyB06 · #9 12-11-2003, 07:13 PM

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Originally posted by abaici
I agree. I am a Dean supporter and I feel that adding Sen. Clinton to the ticket would be detrimental. I am actually not too fond of the Gore endorsement. I'm not sure if his endorsement is really beneficial at this point or at all.

The question is: If not Hillary, than who?

Dean-Bush tidbit: George W. Bush's grandmother was one of Howard Dean's grandmother's bridesmaid

It used to be a staple of American politics that geographical balance was needed for a successful ticket-- Northeastener JFK needed LBJ and the southern region, Southerner Jimmy Carter needed the midwest's Walter Mondale.... but with this neo-style of politics-- Clinton-Gore both southeners, Bush-Cheney, who added nothing geographically (3 electorial votes?) or ideologically to the ticket, I dunno?

I don't know that Dean would need someone from a different geographical region as much as he'd need someone to help him counter the "liberal" tag that's coming. I'm surprised John Edwards hasn't caught on more with the Democrats. He was positioning himself as Clinton II (minus the "issues"). I have to admit, I 've not focused on him, nor even Dean at this point.

Steeltrap · #10 12-11-2003, 07:16 PM

I'm also surprised that Sen. Edwards hasn't caught on. You would think that he's one of the more electable folx out there, particularly because many elections are won by going to the center.

Dean will need a moderate/conservative Democratic running mate, but I just don't know who would fit that bill. Because I just think a straight leftist ticket will crash and burn. When people are freaked out about their jobs, they don't want to hear about tax increases and such, whether needed or not.

TonyB06 · #11 12-11-2003, 08:16 PM

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Originally posted by Steeltrap
I'm also surprised that Sen. Edwards hasn't caught on. You would think that he's one of the more electable folx out there, particularly because many elections are won by going to the center.

Dean will need a moderate/conservative Democratic running mate, but I just don't know who would fit that bill. Because I just think a straight leftist ticket will crash and burn. When people are freaked out about their jobs, they don't want to hear about tax increases and such, whether needed or not.

Steeltrap,

What do you think of Gen. Wesley Clark as a possible #2; sort of a melanin-reduced, Democratic version of everybody's favorite Secretary of Stateperson

also, is anyone surprised that Cheney will remain on the incumbent ticket? I know Bush committed to him early but with all this Halliburton stuff coming out, it makes you wonder if they suspected this might come out at some point and his boys got him locked in early...

Steeltrap · #12 12-11-2003, 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by TonyB06
Steeltrap,

What do you think of Gen. Wesley Clark as a possible #2; sort of a melanin-reduced, Democratic version of everybody's favorite Secretary of Stateperson

also, is anyone surprised that Cheney will remain on the incumbent ticket? I know Bush committed to him early but with all this Halliburton stuff coming out, it makes you wonder if they suspected this might come out at some point and his boys got him locked in early...

LOL @ Genperson Wesley Clark's description. I actually sort of like that, because he and our fave Secretary of Stateperson are actually pretty close in ideology, IMO.

I'm not surprised that Gorgie Dubya Boosh would remain loyal to Dick Cheney.

enlightenment06 · #13 12-12-2003, 10:55 AM

I think if Dean runs with Clinton it's going to be a very ugly election. I agree that Dean should run with Wes Clark- that's probably the Dems best option.

Sistermadly · #14 12-12-2003, 11:26 AM

Personally, I think it would be a bonehead move on Dean's part. He's trying to move the Democratic party back to the left, and by attaching one of the Republicrat Clintons to his ticket, he'd be alienating a lot of left-wingers who really want to come back to the party (myself included).

I just read that Nader's thinking of running again. If Dean wants the Democrats to win, he really needs to re-think this strategy.

Sistermadly · #15 12-12-2003, 11:26 AM

Interesting article...
http://www.blackcommentator.com/68/68_cover_dean.html