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Old 05-07-2002, 07:28 PM
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R. Kelly

He'll be on BET tonight tomorrow May 8th. I'll be watching. I'm interested in hearing what he has to say.

8:00pm pacific time
10:00pm central time
11:00pm eastern time
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Old 05-07-2002, 11:43 PM
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Question ummm????

uhhh....is it just me or does R. Kelly look alot like Clive Davis???
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Old 05-08-2002, 08:34 AM
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I am really going to try and watch it tonight, because I want to hear what he has to say about the allegations. But dang... 11:30pm??? I don't know if I can make it. If I'm up past 10:30pm, I'm doing good!!! Yall, I'm getting old!
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Old 05-09-2002, 07:49 AM
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OKAY... I saw the interview last night... and, I'm no judge nor am I trying to persecute this man... BUT... I believe, in my heart, that R. Kelly is really guilty. I'm even MORE convinced now that he has done this interview. It seems to me that he was just basically RAMBLING about a bunch of NOTHING last night. Plain and simple, I feel that R. Kelly has dug a hole that he very well may not be able to get out of.

My friend (and co-worker) said that he's not the ONLY one doing stuff like this... and I totally agree. BUT, I told her that R. KELLY is the "flavor of the month" and you can believe that they are going to make an example out of him. My friend ALSO said that she kinda blames the young girls because they probably didn't tell him their REAL ages. I told her to THINK about it... these girls were MINORS (Heck, we work with these "fast" young girls every day) and I realize that they can be misleading. BUT... the key word is that they are MINORS. R. Kelly is AN ADULT who is experienced in sex and sexual activities (this is why we have the statutory rape laws). And according to what I've heard about the video, one of the young girls showed OBVIOUS signs (undeveloped breasts, NO PUBIC HAIR) that she was YOUNG. HE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!

My friend also thinks that he is not going to get any time even if he's found guilty because he's RICH and has these FANTASTIC lawyers. BUT... (and I'm sorry to say this) I SINCERELY believe that R. KELLY IS GOING DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!! And he definitely HURT himself MORE than HELP last night. He would have gotten back a little more respect and support had he just come out with the truth. Instead, he continues to DENY it. Heck, Ed Gordon even turned questions around and asked them in a different ways and R. Kelly wasn't even able to answer the questions as he had previously.

I'm sorry (and I like a lot of his music), but the interview last night gave R. Kelly a spot on many people's MAJOR Sh** list. All I can do is PRAY, PRAY, PRAY for the brother, because he is DEFINITELY going to need it.
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Old 05-09-2002, 08:10 AM
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R. Kelly...

korkscru,
I have to agree with you. R. Kelly was being extremely evasive with his responses. I also believe the interview harmed him, more than it helped him. He wasn't able to come straight out and answer questions, and it was obvious to me that he was lying. I don't like to judge anyone, but it was so obvious.

He really avoided the questions about Aaliyah. I understand he was trying to respect her, but I didn't think it would have been wrong for him to simply say yes I was married to her, or no I wasn't. It was his way of avoiding the question.

I made sure I was up for that interview. I was calling so many people, just to stay awake. I was so proud of myself.
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Old 05-09-2002, 08:28 AM
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The important thing is this case that separates it from others is the fact that is habitual. People, this was no "mistake" or a simple case of Rra being lied to. He sought these girls out. Girls say that he came looking for them. The one in the video was a minor niece to Sparkle. R Kelly was acquainted with the kid, and took advantage of her. Let us not forget the cases he has settled out of court. He belongs to a sick genre of men who prey on children. He is going to keep on doing it as long as he knows he can shell out money to pay for this nastiness.
As for Aaliyah, I respectfully disagree. I think their marriage was quite relevant to the issue at hand. He was legally married to her, and this is public knowledge. When that first came out, he denied it until the marriage certificate surfaced. Since the annulment, his official line has been "no comment. My point is, it seems the man has an extraordinary interest in teens. Wouldn't you agree?
I hear that his present wife was also quite young when he began messing with her. I also understand that he has not been charged yet because the girl and her parents have refused to press charges because they have been paid. Can you say "pimp your daughter"?
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Old 05-09-2002, 08:42 AM
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[As for Aaliyah, I respectfully disagree... [/B]

Hey TLAW,
I was just wondering who you were disagreeing with, because I was saying the same thing you were. He was completely avoiding the questions on Aaliyah. I do understand the issue of respect, because of her death, but I didn't think that was justification to avoid the questions, regarding his marriage to her. Also, I don't think Ed Gordon would have brought Aaliyah's name up, with the intent to disrespect her, but R. Kelly was trying to make it sound that way.

I think the man is just a habitual sexual predator, but he has been able to cover it up with his money.
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Old 05-09-2002, 08:49 AM
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Kissy, after reading all the earlier posts, I am hard pressed to find who I was disagreeing with! LOL!! Must have been another thread, or I am so sleepy I am typing like I crack head!
I agree, he defines the term "sexual predator".
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Old 05-09-2002, 12:35 PM
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TLAW, you've taken most of the words right out of my mouth. R. Kelly definitely knows the ages of the young women he's had sexual relations with. I attended the same High School in which he was a graduate and I know for a fact that he was trying to lure the young ladies when I was there. I think its a shame that after 4 years he's continuing to do so. Yes his actions are habitual and have been for a very long time. All of Chicago has known about it for such a long time.

He's so stupid, it was like he was digging himself a hole. Ed Gordon asked him about previous cases and why he didn't decide to speak out about those. I can't even remember his words because he was babbling(sp) on and on about insignificant things Its like he didn't know what to say. I also don't understand that garbage he was saying about not wanting to view the tapes. Why wouldn't you want to see the tapes? I would. Ed Gordon asked his stupid butt if he'd taped the sexual escapades he's had with the adults. He still didn't want to answer the question. He's like a deer caught in head lights not knowing which way to go. He's lawyers should have counsled and prepared him a little more for his interview.

All this time I didn't know that the young lady was related to Sparkle. For some reason I don't think she was forced, coerced, taken advantage of or whatever else. I think she knew full well what she was doing. R. Kelly is a sick individual but these young ladies aren't completely innocent.
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Old 05-09-2002, 02:02 PM
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Thank you Candy. Interesting point, about the "innocence" of the girls. One issue I have is that if I had potato for every man who has been hit on by an underage girl, I'd have a french-fry empire.
Sadly, there are plenty of kids that would jump at the chance to be touched by a star. As a man, I have to be able to earn the trust society has put in me, and having sex with minors betrays that trust.
We have a society of "fast" kids, but ultimately, the responsibility falls on the adults to maintain propriety.
I totally agree that his performance was not his best. Forgive me, but for some reason, "Rra" was not as intelligent as I thought he'd be. I guess the stress must finally be getting to him. And, like Candy pointed out, couldn't his lawyers have prepped him better? As a fellow male, a small part of me hopes this is all a fabrication, but my logical side, coupled with the facts and history make believe the worst. If guilty, lock him up and melt the key; our children have enough to worry about.
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Old 05-09-2002, 11:27 PM
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TLAW, I agree TOTALLY with your statement. SURE we have a younger generation of "fast-a**" girls/teens. WITHOUT A DOUBT they literally THROW themselves at stars and older men. OF COURSE they give CONSENT to participate in sex and other sexual activities with these stars and older men. I don't doubt this nor do I debate it. BUUUUUTTTT... these stars and older men HAVETO remember that we have a STATUTORY RAPE LAW and on top of THAT they must remember that THEY are supposed to be the WISER of the two. Thus they are EXPECTED to execute what our society calls GOOD JUDGEMENT and MORAL OBLIGATION.

No, I'm not a judge nor am I perfect. But I've ALWAYS known not to do no stuff like THAT (and I NEVER have). I WILL say this, I believe deep in my heart that R. Kelly KNEW!!! This is a man that was RAISED in the WORD, so he KNEW whether he was doing right or wrong. He's not retarded or dumb. He's a VERY street-smart man. So, even if those young girls lied about their ages, I believe that he was able to tell.

Plain and simple, R. Kelly got caught with his "draws" down (LITERALLY)!!!! He's like a mouse caught in a trap... AROUND THE NECK!!! All I can say is BETTER HIM THAN ME!!!!

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Old 05-09-2002, 11:32 PM
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Thumbs down IMO

Personally I think that the interview made matters worse. He wasn’t answering any of the questions and the ones he did “try" and answer (sigh) ....... let’s just say he would have done better keeping his mouth shut. The only good answer he had was the one where he was asked “why don’t you watch the tape and say that’s not you?” I think that answer was the best one throughout the whole interview.

Now I’ve seen the tape and the dvd, and I can say without a doubt that that’s him, and the girl looks like she’s fresh out of the 8th grade! Now all I’m saying is, if Rra says it’s not him, why not go on a man hunt and look for this so-called “twin” of his and bring him before us so you can prove your innocence, hell it worked for Harrison Ford in “The Fugitive”. That’s the only way Rra’s gonna get out of this.

And another part of the interview that really got on my nerves was him continuously saying I’m not perfect, I’ve done things in the past...ya da ya da ya da” Ed Gordon should have followed up with “Things like what?” It was so many good follow up questions he missed out on. I don’t think Ed did a good job on the interview, I wish my boy Tavis was doing it, we would have had all the answers and then some!

I will watch tonight.....I won’t be surprised if he drops a couple of tears.
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Old 05-09-2002, 11:40 PM
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I just got done watching a re-run of the R kelly Interview...and now I can honestly say that he is LYING!

I knwo there are many young ladies out there who are fast...but that is really not the issue...R.Kelley is older and he could have always said NO!! He knew how old those girls were...

The other thing I want to comment on was the way he answered his questions....If I heard say one more times these lines

"I;m not a criminal...."
OR
"I'm not the monster everyone thinks I am.....

I am going to scream!!
He rambled on and on and never really made any of points he was so desperately trying to get out....

Man I don't even know what to say..........
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Old 05-09-2002, 11:41 PM
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... which is exactly what I am trying to say, Korkscru. Who is the adult? I think the man knew. I am a youth athletic coach, and in my experience, you have to carry yourself above situations. With girls (I coach middle school girls during the Spring), I have realized that you have put yourself above reproach. Act like a man, and you'll be treated as one. No man should mess with a kid. If you are doing what you are supposed to, you won't end up being in situations where the girl "lied". I am so fed up of that being an excuse. Do ya have to jump in the sack with any mature looking female who smiles at you after a couple of hours?
What a man sees sexually attractive in a child is beyond me, but then again, I am not a muti-platinum recording artist with a fetish for almost pre-pubescent females.
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Old 05-10-2002, 08:21 AM
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... Who is the adult? I think the man knew. I am a youth athletic coach, and in my experience, you have to carry yourself above situations. With girls (I coach middle school girls during the Spring), I have realized that you have put yourself above reproach. Act like a man, and you'll be treated as one. No man should mess with a kid. If you are doing what you are supposed to, you won't end up being in situations where the girl "lied". I am so fed up of that being an excuse. Do ya have to jump in the sack with any mature looking female who smiles at you after a couple of hours?
What a man sees sexually attractive in a child is beyond me, but then again, I am not a muti-platinum recording artist with a fetish for almost pre-pubescent females.

AMEN, TLAW!!!!!!!

Just because these young girls hit on ADULT males, it doesn't mean the men have to give in to the girls' advances. There's absolutely no excuse for it. Just as you mentioned, it's a matter of who's the adult.

R. Kelly has liked "little" girls ever since he married Aaliyah.... and probably before that.
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