Black Greek/Multicultural letter rules?

Hi guys,

I was curious, why can't you write black greek or MGC greek letters anywhere?

Our fraternity wanted to write So-and-so hearts sorority X, doing this for every sorority on campus just as easy PR, but found out it may not be appropriate?

Is it just a respect thing...?

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by thebigghost

Hi guys,

I was curious, why can't you write black greek or MGC greek letters anywhere?

Our fraternity wanted to write So-and-so hearts sorority X, doing this for every sorority on campus just as easy PR, but found out it may not be appropriate?

Is it just a respect thing...?

There is no standard across the board, but generally, it's because protocol states that letters are reserved for members of said organizations.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by thebigghost

Our fraternity wanted to write So-and-so hearts sorority X, doing this for every sorority on campus just as easy PR....

As for Delta Sigma Theta, do not use us "as easy PR" and do not use our symbols. We have enough people who really heart us. Find another way to advertise your fraternity and recruit members.

Originally Posted by DrPhil

As for Delta Sigma Theta, do not use us "as easy PR" and do not use our symbols. We have enough people who really heart us. Find another way to advertise your fraternity and recruit members.

Owch.. to be fair, my school has TWO black chapters, both of which have 1 and 3 members on a campus of 30,000+. Sorry for trying to be inclusive?

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by thebigghost

Owch.. to be fair, my school has TWO black chapters, both of which have 1 and 3 members on a campus of 30,000+. Sorry for trying to be inclusive?

These "black chapters" have hundreds of thousands of members in their national organizations. I'm sure DrPhil knows what she's talking about when she says the PR isn't necessary.

[romona]

could i become an AKA after im already an eastern star?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

These "black chapters" have hundreds of thousands of members in their national organizations. I'm sure DrPhil knows what she's talking about when she says the PR isn't necessary.

And the "easy PR" is for HIS chapter of HIS GLO. It is always amusing and insulting when people pretend they are doing other chapters ("Black chapters" in this case) an unsolicited favor. His after-the-fact justification makes his chapter's "easy PR" seem even more silly. If real inclusion (read: his after-the-fact justification for the "easy PR") is what they want, there are more sincere and more lasting ways to go about it. Step 1 is to learn more about the NPHC sorority chapters beyond "TWO black chapters, both of which have 1 and 3 members on a campus of 30,000+." I TRULY doubt that is accurate.

Originally Posted by romona

could i become an AKA after im already an eastern star?

Greekchat is not the place to ask this question.

[preciousjeni]

Hats off to knight_shadow and DrPhil for handling this matter.

Originally Posted by DrPhil

And the "easy PR" is for HIS chapter of HIS GLO. It is always amusing and insulting when people pretend they are doing other chapters ("Black chapters" in this case) an unsolicited favor. His after-the-fact justification makes his chapter's "easy PR" seem even more silly. If real inclusion (read: his after-the-fact justification for the "easy PR") is what they want, there are more sincere and more lasting ways to go about it. Step 1 is to learn more about the NPHC sorority chapters beyond "TWO black chapters, both of which have 1 and 3 members on a campus of 30,000+." I TRULY doubt that is accurate.



Greekchat is not the place to ask this question.

It is accurate. This is why there is such a large divide between historically black greek organizations and PHC/IFC on my campus. They're not willing to educate and have an attitude. On my campus the advertise as "BLACK" organizations. Sorry for approaching you about this, maybe it was asked bluntly, but don't act as if your organization is above curiosity. There needs to be equal respect for our outreach. The BGLOs are withering away on our campus for that exact reason. There is ZERO mutual respect.

The PR wasn't exclusively for the benefit of the fraternity. We're trying to incorporate the other two organizations, showing inclusivity cross councils.

Hats off to a dying organization that claims to be multicultural but merely isolates themselves and promotes bigotry. It's time to rethink culturally exclusive chapters. The traditionally "white" chapters have.. why not you?

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by thebigghost

It is accurate. This is why there is such a large divide between historically black greek organizations and PHC/IFC on my campus. They're not willing to educate and have an attitude. On my campus the advertise as "BLACK" organizations. Sorry for approaching you about this, maybe it was asked bluntly, but don't act as if your organization is above curiosity. There needs to be equal respect for our outreach. The BGLOs are withering away on our campus for that exact reason. There is ZERO mutual respect.

The PR wasn't exclusively for the benefit of the fraternity. We're trying to incorporate the other two organizations, showing inclusivity cross councils.

Hats off to a dying organization that claims to be multicultural but merely isolates themselves and promotes bigotry. It's time to rethink culturally exclusive chapters. The traditionally "white" chapters have.. why not you?

Your campus =/= these organizations as a whole. If you were really THAT curious, you would have done a little research and realized that.

It's not up to non-PHC/IFC organizations to "educate" you. If you are interested in them, take it upon yourself to learn about them. If you had any clue what these organizations were about or how these organizations operate, you'd know that spending time worrying about t-shirts is not high on the list of priorities. But you're stuck in your campus bubble, so it's easier for you to pass judgement.

And regarding that last paragraph -- go eat a hot, steaming bowl of shit.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by thebigghost

Hats off to a dying organization that claims to be multicultural but merely isolates themselves and promotes bigotry. It's time to rethink culturally exclusive chapters. The traditionally "white" chapters have.. why not you?

Perhaps it's time to rethink your rather arrogant assumption that these organizations (which are hardly dying, and which very well may have different views about small chapters) should relate to you on your terms and according to your expectations.

[amIblue?]

OP, your ignorance is showing.

[DrPhil]

I am psychic. Call me now for your $1913 reading.

[Mevara]

Totally off topic, but curious.
If a chapter is really as small as 1-3 members how does it operate? I know some chapters are not campus specific so is that possibly the case here? What happens if all those members graduate before they recruit new members?

[sigmadiva]

NPHC orgs are not so much concerned about number of members, as they are concerned about finding the right fit for the chapter / org.

Being a member of SGR, we typically have smaller chapters here in Texas. It is not unusual to have a chapter of 3 -5 members. Each member understands that the activities and events must get done, so we do them. Let me just say, there is not room for slackers in a small chapter.

I guess what I am trying to say is that for the most part, NPHC orgs are not consumed by numbers like the NPC with totals and quotas. We don't need to have a high member count, which would imply a lot of money in the treasury, to get things done. Besides, NPHC orgs are more about service than the social aspect.