Hazing: University of Colorado: Alpha Phi

BAckbOwlsgIrl · #1 10-22-2010, 07:21 PM

Through the magic of cable television, the NBC affiliate in Denver is reporting that the University Of Colorado chapter of Alpha Phi is facing hazing and underage drinking allegations involving freshman new members and being forced to drink. I was unable to find a link on this to on the 9news.com.

Apparently, this is not the first time the chapter has had issues with hazing. The reporter mentioned that someone had fallen from the house a while back and received injuries.

From what I know, Alpha Phi's house at the University of Colorado is the old
Alpha Omicron Pi's house. Alpha Phi put a lot of money into refurbishing the house. What ashame to have this happen.

I believe that there are other greekchat members from the University of Colorado on here. Perhaps they can elaborate and/or clarify.

***Moderators, I apologize if this sounds like hearsay. However, I did hear this on the news. I am unable to find a link to post. I understand if you feel the need to remove this or edit.

33girl · #2 10-22-2010, 08:46 PM

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Apparently, this is not the first time the chapter has had issues with hazing. The reporter mentioned that someone had fallen from the house a while back and received injuries.

These two are related how??

Alumiyum · #3 10-22-2010, 10:10 PM

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These two are related how??

"Last Feburary, a student fell off the roof of the same sorority after being intoxicated as part of a hazing incident"

33girl · #4 10-23-2010, 12:56 AM

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"Last Feburary, a student fell off the roof of the same sorority after being intoxicated as part of a hazing incident"

That's about as ambiguous as it can be. An initiated sister could have fallen off the roof when she was just sitting there drinking and doing nothing.

My point is don't post this stuff unless you've got links that explain it.

Alumiyum · #5 10-23-2010, 02:00 AM

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That's about as ambiguous as it can be. An initiated sister could have fallen off the roof when she was just sitting there drinking and doing nothing.

My point is don't post this stuff unless you've got links that explain it.

Working on the assumption that the reporter fact-checked, two hazing events serious enough to warrant media attention indicates a problem.

pearlbubbles · #6 10-24-2010, 02:27 PM

I was up this past weekend for Homecoming and heard a very different account of this incident than what is written in any of the articles I have read or found (the same applies to February's incident, when I was still living next door). However, since I can't back any of this up with an article, and do not want to promote hearsay, I will refer you all to the following:

Recent incident: http://www.coloradodaily.com/cu-boul...#axzz13IjpwSXv

Incident last February: http://www.coloradodaily.com/ci_14448705#axzz13IlJMbtd

I would like to clarify, though, that February's incident was not caused by hazing, as far as I remember, and the member involved was an initiated, albeit underage, sister.

DeltaBetaBaby · #7 10-25-2010, 09:35 PM

Um, this is totally ridiculous, if you read the article. Some members encouraged the NM to drink her own alcohol? Sounds like Suzie NM got in trouble with her RA and tried to pass the buck.

Drolefille · #8 10-25-2010, 10:50 PM

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Um, this is totally ridiculous, if you read the article. Some members encouraged the NM to drink her own alcohol? Sounds like Suzie NM got in trouble with her RA and tried to pass the buck.

Or "take a shot, take a shot, take a shot *bleep* take a shot. If you can't take a shot like a XY can...." etc.

We don't know whether it was pressured or not without being there.

DeltaBetaBaby · #9 10-26-2010, 11:06 AM

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Or "take a shot, take a shot, take a shot *bleep* take a shot. If you can't take a shot like a XY can...." etc.

We don't know whether it was pressured or not without being there.

No, we don't, but if I go to the gym with a new member and she is having trouble on the treadmill, and I yell "C'mon Suzie! Don't quit now! Finish that f*cking workout!", am I hazing her? Well, I'm encouraging her to do something she doesn't want to do, aren't I?

Drolefille · #10 10-26-2010, 11:13 AM

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No, we don't, but if I go to the gym with a new member and she is having trouble on the treadmill, and I yell "C'mon Suzie! Don't quit now! Finish that f*cking workout!", am I hazing her? Well, I'm encouraging her to do something she doesn't want to do, aren't I?

One's illegal, one's not.

One's probably specifically prohibited by hazing regulations/laws/restrictions whatever, one's probably not.

If you told her/ gave her the impression/ pressured her with the idea that she wouldn't be accepted by the sorority if she didn't finish running. And there were 10 actives standing around her saying the same thing. Yeah at some point you're hazing. Your assumption is that she wanted to drink and then lied about it later. Big assumption.

DeltaBetaBaby · #11 10-26-2010, 11:44 AM

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One's illegal, one's not.

One's probably specifically prohibited by hazing regulations/laws/restrictions whatever, one's probably not.

If you told her/ gave her the impression/ pressured her with the idea that she wouldn't be accepted by the sorority if she didn't finish running. And there were 10 actives standing around her saying the same thing. Yeah at some point you're hazing. Your assumption is that she wanted to drink and then lied about it later. Big assumption.

What's illegal? Was she underage? If so, she probably shouldn't have had alcohol in her dorm in the first place.

DrPhil · #12 10-26-2010, 01:57 PM

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No, we don't, but if I go to the gym with a new member and she is having trouble on the treadmill, and I yell "C'mon Suzie! Don't quit now! Finish that f*cking workout!", am I hazing her? Well, I'm encouraging her to do something she doesn't want to do, aren't I?

She didn't hop her ass onto the treadmill because she's a NM. Susie did it because Susie wants to be in shape; and you are giving positive reinforcement.

If you told her she better finish on the treadmill or her NM status will be harmed, that is hazing. If you increased the speed from 5.0 on the jog to 7.0 on the run against her consent and told her she better finish or her life as an XYZ will be shitty, that is hazing.

ETA: Ditto to what Drolefille said.

DeltaBetaBaby · #13 10-26-2010, 01:59 PM

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She didn't hop her ass onto the treadmill because she's a NM. Susie did it because Susie wants to be in shape; and you are giving positive reinforcement.

If you told her she better finish on the treadmill or her NM status will be harmed, that is hazing. If you increased the speed from 5.0 on the jog to 7.0 on the run against her consent and told her she better finish or her life as an XYZ will be shitty, that is hazing.

And I am saying, from the details presented in the article, there is no evidence that the members did anything more than say "c'mon, let's all do a shot!"

pearlbubbles · #14 10-25-2010, 10:34 PM

^I have to agree, at least a little. The account in the Camera's article is much closer to what I heard over the weekend.