Can anyone help clarify this situation?

lilpadfoot · #1 02-08-2009, 03:26 PM

I come from a very small school that has only three sororities. I went through formal recruitment with my roommate and was cut as soon as the first cuts were made to one invite and roomie got two. We were then cut by everyone before preference night. We were both told that about ten girls were cut out of thirty. However, when we went out today, Bid day, we discovered that every other girl had gotten a bid except for us two. We've both emailed the head of greek life and the panhel vice president of recruitment to see what's going on and if we have a chance at getting an open bid, but we're both rather confused as to what happened, especially when the other cut girls still got bids.
Can anyone help clarify this for us?
Thanks

jwright25 · #2 02-08-2009, 03:44 PM

This is a situation that would be specific to the campus, and unless someone was there, we won't be able to tell you for sure. If a sorority does not match to quota through the regular process, they are allowed to "snap bid" any PNM who didn't match or had dropped out or been released. That MIGHT be an explanation.

Hopefully the Greek Advisor and/or the VP Recruitment will reply and let you know your options.

lilpadfoot · #3 02-08-2009, 05:15 PM

I'm updating to add in that the Greek Advisor responded to tell me he'll be in touch with me Monday. I just learned from a friend that her friend declined a bid from the sorority I wanted to join, so I'm crossing fingers for a chance at that spot.

ETA: The numbers for each sorority are currently: 8, 11, and 12(minus one that declined)

Kansas City · #4 02-09-2009, 02:58 PM

Not knowing anything about you or your friend, my thoughts tend to gravitate toward the following question: Was your GPA at an acceptable level when you began recruitment? At least on my campus, this tends to be the #1 reason chapters across the board will cut a PNM. There may be opportunities later in the semester to COB but if you do not solve for the reason that you were likely released for (whatever that may be) I anticipate that the chapters will look elsewhere for their PNMs to COB.

lilpadfoot · #5 02-09-2009, 04:46 PM

My gpa was a 3.381, one of the highest. That could have been what happened with my roomie tho. Hers was barely at the minimum for my campus. I have learned why I was cut from one and I've been encouraged to make friends with some of the sisters at the one I'm interested in and rerush in the fall when they know me better.

ASTalumna06 · #6 02-09-2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lilpadfoot

I have learned why I was cut from one and I've been encouraged to make friends with some of the sisters at the one I'm interested in and rerush in the fall when they know me better.

As was said to you in your other thread, you don't really know why you were cut from that one chapter. But again, try to rush if you truly want to be Greek.

AOII Angel · #7 02-09-2009, 05:03 PM

I wouldn't recommend that you go around asking sisters why you weren't given a bid. First, it is a secret that cannot be revealed by sorority members. Second, you may alienate the members if they feel pressured to give you an answer. Third, a member may not know exactly why you were released. If members are breaking their rules by telling you why you were released, they are risking sanctions should their chapter discover their infraction. I don't think they'd be too inclined towards you should they get fined for telling you these things.

lilpadfoot · #8 02-09-2009, 05:24 PM

I didn't ask. It was a well-meaning fraternity friend that did it, and I didn't ask him to either. I found out that he did when he told me today. Should I tell him not to do that anymore?

KSUViolet06 · #9 02-09-2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by lilpadfoot

I didn't ask. It was a well-meaning fraternity friend that did it, and I didn't ask him to either. I found out that he did when he told me today. Should I tell him not to do that anymore?

This is even worse.

I know I said this in your other thread, but perhaps you didn't read it. I'll repeat:

A guy most likely does not know the EXACT reason you didn't get a bid.

That's not something you know for certain.

Only those women know for certain, and it's not something they should really be discussing outside of the chapter.

So anything you hear is likely just rumors, hearsay, or something a sorority member just told him because she couldn't tell him the details and is trying to spare your feelings.

So once again, be careful of what you believe.

I would really hate to see you go through recruitment AGAIN based on what someone else said about being able to get a bid if you met more people.

He doesn't KNOW that because he's not in that sorority.

AOII Angel · #10 02-09-2009, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

This is even worse.

I know I said this in your other thread, but perhaps you didn't read it. I'll repeat:

A guy most likely does not know the EXACT reason you didn't get a bid.

That's not something you know for certain.

Only those women know for certain, and it's not something they should really be discussing outside of the chapter.

So anything you hear is likely just rumors, hearsay, or something a sorority member just told him because she couldn't tell him the details and is trying to spare your feelings.

So once again, be careful of what you believe.

I would really hate to see you go through recruitment AGAIN based on what someone else said about being able to get a bid if you met more people.

He doesn't KNOW that because he's not in that sorority.

Completely agreed! If backed into a corner, some sorority women will give a simple answer to why a PNM didn't get a bid. The reasons why PNMs are or are not given a bid are secret. They aren't always nice either. Do you really need the pain of not getting a bid compounded by a reason?

agzg · #11 02-09-2009, 06:18 PM

Not to mention that not all organizations discuss a PNM before voting. Or before throwing the proverbial dart at a board, or by crossing out all the consonants in a name and whoever has the most vowels wins - however they do it.

Denise_DPhiE · #12 02-10-2009, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam

Not to mention that not all organizations discuss a PNM before voting. Or before throwing the proverbial dart at a board, or by crossing out all the consonants in a name and whoever has the most vowels wins - however they do it.

I like this approach - would make member selection a lot easier! (LOL ROTF)

Thanks alphagam!

33girl · #13 02-11-2009, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam

before voting. Or before throwing the proverbial dart at a board, or by crossing out all the consonants in a name and whoever has the most vowels wins - however they do it.

Did you ever do that w/ your name & the name of the guy you liked and then went through the remaining letters saying "love, hate, friendship, marriage"?

To the OP: I advise you to get involved in campus organizations other than Greek life.

preciousjeni · #14 02-11-2009, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

Did you ever do that w/ your name & the name of the guy you liked and then went through the remaining letters saying "love, hate, friendship, marriage"?

I did that! LOL! I hadn't thought of that in forever.

knight_shadow · #15 02-11-2009, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

Did you ever do that w/ your name & the name of the guy you liked and then went through the remaining letters saying "love, hate, friendship, marriage"?

Reminds me of that MASH game

http://www.swingsetpress.com/playmash.htm