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GeekyPenguin · #**121** 10-06-2006, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by blueangel

No one said it was OK. Please do not put words in my mouth.

I am saying that there is no group which even comes close to the enormous scope of the Islamic terrorists.

Because you've never put words in anyone's mouth, you've always been "fair and balanced."

Are you then implying that the Crusaders were not as large as the Islamic terrorists? Because I would posit that not only were they larger in scope, they were far better organized and focused on one common goal instead of hundreds of factious ones.

blueangel · #**122** 10-06-2006, 09:12 AM

Opi:

I'll go into more detail if you wish over the weekend, as I'll have more time for reading and to research your response. (sorry, it's the Astronaut in me that likes to really understand topics in detail)

I do not claim to be an expert on the Islamic faith. In my research, I found more on the quotes I asked you about. As you recall, I mentioned that things can be misinterpreted and taken out of context, which is why I requested your clarification since you say you are Muslim (or, as you recall.. I also asked anyone else to chime in) as you would know more about your faith than I.

As per your response...... you said:

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Your first citation is "Qu'ran 39". This is not the right way to cite a verse from the holy book. You must have the chapter name or number and verse number. Example: Al-Baraqa 50. Al-Baraqa is the chapter name. 50 is the specific verse. Or you can write it like so..surah 2 (which is Al-Baraqa):50. There is no chapter in the Quran named Quran. Therefore the first quote you gave me wasINCORRECT.

Thank you for explaining that. So am I to understand that there is no such quote in the Qu'ran? Or do you mean it is just referenced incorrectly? This is why I was holding off on posting.. I am researching this more.

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Your second citation is "Ishaq:587". There is no chapter called "Ishaq". In fact, the closest sounding chapter is "Al-Ishiqaq". I thought this was a good-faith mistake until I looked at the verse #. 587. The longest chapter in the Quran is Al-Baraqa. It contains 286 verses. Let me repeat this in case you missed it. There is no chapter and no such verse in the Quran

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From what I understand, and please correct me if I'm wrong, (as I have explained that I'm still just learning about the Islamic religion, but was alarmed at the quotes I came across)... Ishaq:587 comes from Ibn Ishaq's Sirat Rasul Allah http://onlineislamicstore.com/b3828.html a biography which composes the account of Muhammad's life and the beginnings of the religion. Is that correct, or am I mistaken? I could very well be.

And finally, is it true Mohammed's final words to his disciples were, "I was ordered to fight all men until they say, "There is no god but Allah."

blueangel · #**123** 10-06-2006, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin

Because you've never put words in anyone's mouth, you've always been "fair and balanced."

Are you then implying that the Crusaders were not as large as the Islamic terrorists? Because I would posit that not only were they larger in scope, they were far better organized and focused on one common goal instead of hundreds of factious ones.

Yes, I try to be "fair and balanced." It's the Libra in me, you know.

The Crusaders were as bad as the Islamic Terrorists in intent... but correct me if I'm wrong... didn't that happen in the Middle Ages? I wasn't aware there were still Crusades.

I believe we're now talking about the 21st century. Can you name a hate group as large and as organized as the Islamic Terrorists?

(edited to correct a typo)

kddani · #**124** 10-06-2006, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by blueangel

I believe that is a personal attack. I'm reporting it.

Funny, you personally attacked me earlier in this thread and the post was removed by the moderator.

If you want to crusade in the name of the TOS, then follow it yourself.

mulattogyrl · #**125** 10-06-2006, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by blueangel

No one said it was OK. Please do not put words in my mouth.

I am saying that there is no group which even comes close to the enormous scope of the Islamic terrorists.

Well if you go to the moon like I suggested you would be safe.

blueangel · #**126** 10-06-2006, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kddani

Funny, you personally attacked me earlier in this thread and the post was removed by the moderator.

If you want to crusade in the name of the TOS, then follow it yourself.

I didn't "attack" you... I merely pointed out the silly diversionary tactics you use. But, then.. when have you ever let the facts get in the way of a good story?

blueangel · #**127** 10-06-2006, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mulattogyrl

Well if you go to the moon like I suggested you would be safe.

Would you care to add to the discussion? Please feel free to comment on the quotes I asked Opi about.

kddani · #**128** 10-06-2006, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by blueangel

I didn't "attack" you... I merely pointed out the silly diversionary tactics you use. But, then.. when have you ever let the facts get in the way of a good story?

If it wasn't an attack, then why was it deleted?

blueangel · #**129** 10-06-2006, 09:31 AM

I'm not a moderator.. I have no idea. I've seen blatant attacks which are allowed to stand in one forum, yet removed in others.

Are you using your diversionary technique again to get away from the subject at hand? Would you care to weigh in on Islamic Terrorist? Or are you going to continue to try to change the subject?

Tippiechick · #**130** 10-06-2006, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by blueangel

Are you using your diversionary technique again to get away from the subject at hand? Would you care to weigh in on Islamic Terrorist? Or are you going to continue to try to change the subject?

I think that Opi's question to you is still unanswered. Where did you find those quotes? Or, are you too busy using your diversionary techniques to avoid the question?

blueangel · #**131** 10-06-2006, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Tippiechick

I think that Opi's question to you is still unanswered. Where did you find those quotes? Or, are you too busy using your diversionary techniques to avoid the question?

Would you care to weigh in on the discussion of Islamic Terrorists?

kddani · #**132** 10-06-2006, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Tippiechick

I think that Opi's question to you is still unanswered. Where did you find those quotes? Or, are you too busy using your diversionary techniques to avoid the question?

She's too busy telling people she's reporting them. Because that means something, I guess. Can't tell you what.

Making posts telling people you're reporting them = diversionary tactic.

blueangel · #**133** 10-06-2006, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by kddani

She's too busy telling people she's reporting them. Because that means something, I guess. Can't tell you what.

Making posts telling people you're reporting them = diversionary tactic.

You're diverting the discussion again.

Tippiechick · #**134** 10-06-2006, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by blueangel

You're diverting the discussion again.

So, where'd your find those quotes Opi asked you about?

mulattogyrl · #**135** 10-06-2006, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by blueangel

Would you care to add to the discussion? Please feel free to comment on the quotes I asked Opi about.

Sure! Thanks for inviting me. How are we supposed to look up a quote in the Quran if it's incorrectly cited? I tried checking it yesterday but couldn't find it, so that's why I never commented.

As far as Ishaq's book, I never read it and haven't seen the quote. Sorry, can't help you there.

Maybe those were Prophet Muhammad's last words. Do you know in what context he said them? Where did you get that quote? Maybe I can read it for you and decipher it since you seem to speak and read English but only see what you want to see.