Indiana Recruitment

[ForeverRoses]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Thanks. It's kinda funny that, for every parent complaining, there is an alum defending the system.

Also, comments like this:

"My daughter is in the midst of rush at IU and I received the heartbreaking call this morning that she didn’t receive invites from her favorites."

make me hate parents.

The bolded part leads me to believe that the daughter did in fact receive invites; and somehow I doubt the lovely parent encouraged the daughter to go to the houses for which she still had invites back.

I completely agee with your last part.

[AXOrushadvisor]

How many Chapters don't have house at IU?

[glittergal1985]

Originally Posted by AXOrushadvisor

How many Chapters don't have house at IU?

Right now it's just Theta Phi Alpha, but all future groups to colonize will also not have housing. I believe Alpha Sigma Alpha is coming in the Fall.

[IndianaSigKap]

Originally Posted by AXOrushadvisor

How many Chapters don't have house at IU?

Just one Theta Phi Alpha for now, but when ASA colonizes in the fall they will also not have a house. The remaining 19 chapters have houses.

[Low C Sharp]

The bed rush situation would influence how I counseled my imaginary daughter if she were deciding between IU and some of its nearby peers like Illinois and Miami. These are schools where going Greek is a big factor in taking full advantage of the campus experience. There are some unique programs at IU, like the conservatory (though I don't think many conservatory students rush). But if we're talking about a young woman going into liberal arts, who just wants the complete social life the school can offer...it's a meaningful strike against IU in that calculation.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

How many fraternities are there at IU, and what are their sizes like? Are they all over the board?

[IndianaSigKap]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

How many fraternities are there at IU, and what are their sizes like? Are they all over the board?

Hopefully IUHoosierGirl88 can come back soon and give more current insight to this question. But there are 5 fraternities on Third Street and 1 about a block away. I am sure each of these chapters has over 120 members, maybe even closer to 150. Then there are 13 or 14 chapter houses on Jordan. There are quite a few unhoused chapters/colonies listed on the IFC website, but it doesn't look like it's been updated in ages. There are two "underground" fraternities too who are relatively strong but aren't recognized by IU because of disciplinary reason.

Originally Posted by DubaiSis

The problem is girl goes to 20 parties, ranks the 4 traditionally weakest chapters as her bottom 4. She gets invited back to 16 parties (I can't remember how the days break down so I'll make up the numbers) and all 4 of the "bottom" houses are off her list. Then at 8 party day she gets back all 8 of the strongest. For preference she gets back 3 of the most competitive chapters on campus and is on every one of their 2nd bid list. At any other school she would be a quota addition, but here, after having a stellar rush, she ends up with zero..

Yes! This exactly. For some reason, chapters don't cut enough after 20 party. It could be because no one knows how grades are going to be or who's going to come back because of the weather, etc. But many times, girls do put the lesser popular chapters as their bottom 6. They get their top 13 or 14 back. The more popular chapters make their heavy cuts and then women find themselves with very few chapters left. If I had a dollar for every time this happens....

Originally Posted by AXOrushadvisor

I would love to see some stats but I'm thinking they keep them closely guarded. What you need to see is how many women are being placed. The next stat I would like to look at is how many are fully participating and not being placed. Again, for me that is the single biggest issue that a girl can go to 3 preference parties and walk away with nothing. My thought is if you liked her enough to invite to preference couldn't you see her as a sister?

If Susie Rushee is going back to three Third Street chapters who have the smaller chapter houses. The quotas could be 35, 33, 40. These chapters are highly sought after and very few women are going to pass up the chance to attend these prefs. These chapters are strong recruiters, very polished with gorgeous houses and great reputations. They will invite back 105, 99, 120 back to preference. Yes, they may really like Susie Rushee and she is one of their top 150 women out of 1600, but it is possible for her to be #104, #86, #112 on second bid lists of all three chapters, which sucks because she ends up with no bid. However, she may have been #55 on the first list of a chapter who bids 56 women routinely, but she ranked them 15th on her list after 20 party. Again, if I had a dollar...

[carnation]

I just found out that my husband's cousin is probably going to IU this fall. Her mom asked me if I thought she should rush since there are about 5000 Greeks in this family. I can't encourage her after all the heartbreak I've read and heard about.

I hope she chooses one of the other schools. Bed rush is sadistic. Yeah, we had it at Arkansas and it was awful but this is on a much larger scale.

[TriDeltaSallie]

Originally Posted by carnation

I just found out that my husband's cousin is probably going to IU this fall. Her mom asked me if I thought she should rush since there are about 5000 Greeks in this family. I can't encourage her after all the heartbreak I've read and heard about.

I hope she chooses one of the other schools. Bed rush is sadistic. Yeah, we had it at Arkansas and it was awful but this is on a much larger scale.

Do you know the other schools she is considering, just out of curiosity?

[carnation]

Her mom told me but it was in the middle of a loud family party so I've forgotten almost everything except that she said that C's major was equally good at all 3 schools.

[IUHoosiergirl88]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

How many fraternities are there at IU, and what are their sizes like? Are they all over the board?

Currently on campus are: LXA, DU, Acacia, Fiji, Delta Chi (in ATO's house, will be unhoused as of Fall 2012), Sigma Chi, Sig Ep, Beta, Sigma Nu, Phi Psi, Phi Delts, Skulls, AEPi, Kappa Sig, Delts, Sigma Pi, Theta Chi, Sammy, ZBT, and Pi Kapps

Currently off campus are: SAE, Pike, ATO (will be returning to campus in Fall 2012), Alpha Sigma Phi, Deke, Phi Tau, KDR (not sure if they're still around or not)

Others: APES, the former members of AEPi after they were removed from campus in 2008...and yes, they do still recruit, and Emanon--the former members of ATO after they were removed from campus.

In terms of size, it ranges. Obviously the on campus chapters are significantly larger than those off campus, but it depends. The largest off campus chapter (SAE) is at 80

We also have a few religious/gay/etc fraternities, but they tend to not factor into the mix. Evan's Scholars also has a house on Jordan.

[ForeverRoses]

Originally Posted by IUHoosiergirl88

Currently on campus are: LXA, DU, Acacia, Fiji, Delta Chi (in ATO's house, will be unhoused as of Fall 2012), Sigma Chi, Sig Ep, Beta, Sigma Nu, Phi Psi, Phi Delts, Skulls, AEPi, Kappa Sig, Delts, Sigma Pi, Theta Chi, Sammy, ZBT, and Pi Kapps

Currently off campus are: SAE, Pike, ATO (will be returning to campus in Fall 2012), Alpha Sigma Phi, Deke, Phi Tau, KDR (not sure if they're still around or not)

Others: APES, the former members of AEPi after they were removed from campus in 2008...and yes, they do still recruit, and Emanon--the former members of ATO after they were removed from campus.

In terms of size, it ranges. Obviously the on campus chapters are significantly larger than those off campus, but it depends. The largest off campus chapter (SAE) is at 80

We also have a few religious/gay/etc fraternities, but they tend to not factor into the mix. Evan's Scholars also has a house on Jordan.

Does "off campus" mean unhoused?

[IndianaSigKap]

Originally Posted by ForeverRoses

Does "off campus" mean unhoused?

Yes, technically. There are groups of brothers in the off campus groups who do live together in residential houses and apartments, but there is not one official residence.

[Mevara]

So how does Theta Phi Alpha determine their quota since they don't have a house and everyone else uses beds?

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Mevara

So how does Theta Phi Alpha determine their quota since they don't have a house and everyone else uses beds?

They have only been a chapter for a short time. I would guess they're still working on an ultimate formula for that.