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09-16-2009, 01:46 AM
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^^^^ I would have paid good money to see Kanye's reaction to hearing this clip from Obama. I'm betting he was either crushed beyond repair because he thought Obama was his "boy" or else he just went straight to flipping out.
I'd really love to see Kanye at the next town hall. Are they still doing those?
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09-16-2009, 01:52 AM
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Why is Obama commenting on it?
Doesn't he have better things to do? This is worse than the Yale professor intervention.
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09-16-2009, 01:56 AM
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Maybe he'll invite kanye, beyonce and taylor all over for a drink, too? I guess taylor could drink a shirley temple...
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09-16-2009, 02:20 AM
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Agreed - it's kind of funny to claim that either is irrelevant, and to me shows a pretty stunning lack of knowledge about pop culture. I say that as someone who's not really a fan of either performer.
Also, the VMAs are still being held? News to me...
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I never watch MTV anymore, but I watch the VMAs because they always have the best performances of any of the award shows. High on theatrics, energy, choreography and just generally very entertaining. Witness this year's as an example...everyone keeps talking about Kanye, but pretty much every performance kicked @$$.
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09-16-2009, 02:31 AM
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Why is Obama commenting on it?
Doesn't he have better things to do? This is worse than the Yale professor intervention.
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Since ABC and NBC were both present, I'm going to guess that someone asked him what he thought about it. And I have no problem with what he said. The president is asked all kinds of questions, I mean, why did the media ask Bush about baseball and crap like that? They do it because our president is first and foremost a person, and they know that people like to hear things about the president and his family that we little people can relate to.
The scene was also all over the news/Web, so in fact I think it was a very "current" event for them to ask him about. You may have also noticed that some news organizations have been tying Kanye in with Serena Williams and Joe Wilson in open dialogues about the lack of manners and civility in our modern society. As the leader of our society, many people feel the president should weigh in on and try to influence these things. If even just as a role model.
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09-16-2009, 03:22 AM
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The scene was also all over the news/Web, so in fact I think it was a very "current" event for them to ask him about.
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A) Can you ever recall the Press ever asking former President Bush anything that he thought about pop culture?
B) ACORN's antics are a current event to speak about, but I don't recall much asking President Obama about ACORN.
Sounds like softball media questioning, if anything. Pretty embarrassing. Far cry from investigative journalism.
This is not the politics board, so I'll drop it. Not the place to rant.
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09-16-2009, 05:03 AM
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Why is Obama commenting on it?
Doesn't he have better things to do? This is worse than the Yale professor intervention.
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It was him talking to the interviewer before the interview starts. He wasn't asked the question, they were just talking. Kinda like Reagan joking to one of the interviewer that he was going to bomb Russia in, I believe, 15 minutes. One of the people in the studio heard it and tweet it.
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09-16-2009, 08:58 AM
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Well said.
For the record, it is particularly odd to me how people seem to be more outraged by this whole ordeal than they were about how Joe Wilson conducted himself the other night. Wonder why HIS butt wasn't kicked out like Kanye?
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Sorry, but you're really stretching things here. People are pretty outraged about what Wilson said...have you seen some of the comments and news commentaries about it? Wasn't there also a story about how one of his potential opponents raised a ridiculous amount of money after the remark?
ETA: Here's a sample of the anti-Wilson commentary: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/20...ublican-antics. If you read some of the 500+ comments, you'll see that people are fairly outraged about what he said.
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09-16-2009, 10:06 AM
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I'm not particularly upset about either of them... I just think Kanye's a douchebag.
I'm sure if I knew enough about Joe Wilson beyond his outburst I'd have an opinion about whether or not he's a douchebag, too.
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09-16-2009, 10:38 AM
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I didn't see the VMA, and have seen only the brief clip of the incident. I hadn't really planned to comment on this because it means so little to me. However, I just had to say something when I got to this...
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His behavior deserves no excuse, but it's not like he's never done it before-it's Kanye being Kanye.
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Ugh. This line always bothers me. If his behavior doesn't deserve an excuse, then why are you giving him one? Just because he's Kanye doesn't mean he is exempt from basic manners. Because he's done it before we're supposed to just nod him along saying, "Oh, it's just Kanye being Kanye." Please.
It'd be like giving OJ a pass if he kills someone [else] because, well, it's just OJ being OJ, and it's not like he's never done it before. (Yes, I understand that what Kanye did is in a completely different ballpark than what OJ got away with. I'm just using it as an example of why "Person X is just being Person X" is an illogical justification for anything.)
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09-16-2009, 10:48 AM
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Ugh. This line always bothers me. If his behavior doesn't deserve an excuse, then why are you giving him one? Just because he's Kanye doesn't mean he is exempt from basic manners. Because he's done it before we're supposed to just nod him along saying, "Oh, it's just Kanye being Kanye." Please.
It'd be like giving OJ a pass if he kills someone [else] because, well, it's just OJ being OJ, and it's not like he's never done it before. (Yes, I understand that what Kanye did is in a completely different ballpark than what OJ got away with. I'm just using it as an example of why "Person X is just being Person X" is an illogical justification for anything.)
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I don't want to come off looking like a Kanye groupie, but people are making this into more than what it should be. Kanye has interrupted awards shows before. He's spoken his mind at inopportune moments. This is not new (and not even the worst thing he's done). People are acting like they've never seen this from him before.
Plus, they're talking about how he picked on this "poor, defenseless little girl." Taylor is 19 and in the music industry. I'm sure she can fend for herself.
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09-16-2009, 10:58 AM
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This is all true about Kanye. The problem people are having is that this was obviously a CHILD, this was her first VMA award and he ruined the moment for her. Period. Doesn't matter if that's his schtick or what have you. And he knows better. It was tacky and rude and tasteless. Period, point blank.
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09-16-2009, 11:57 AM
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Why is Obama commenting on it?
Doesn't he have better things to do? This is worse than the Yale professor intervention.
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It was off the record...ABC just happened to be in the wrong for broadcasting it...either way...the pres said what millions of others have said.
"Kanye is a jackass."
BTW here are some other speeches that Kanye has interrupted:
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09-16-2009, 12:37 PM
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Why is Obama commenting on it?
Doesn't he have better things to do?
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I agree. He talks too much, but we already knew that.
Apparently he hasn't realized that "off the record" means nothing for a POTUS. Anyone heard about the new controversial book from Bush's former speech writer full of "off the record" statements that he made?
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This is worse than the Yale professor intervention.
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That was worse because it was ON the record and in response to a reporter during a "press conference."
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09-16-2009, 12:44 PM
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Sorry, but you're really stretching things here. People are pretty outraged about what Wilson said...have you seen some of the comments and news commentaries about it? Wasn't there also a story about how one of his potential opponents raised a ridiculous amount of money after the remark?
ETA: Here's a sample of the anti-Wilson commentary: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/20...ublican-antics. If you read some of the 500+ comments, you'll see that people are fairly outraged about what he said.
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People donated to Wilson's opponent almost immediately and are still commenting on his outburst.
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I think it's dumb that people are immediately supporting an opponent who they know little to nothing about JUST BECAUSE Wilson yelled "that's a lie!"  Knee jerk reactions are always dumb.
Michael Baisden is one media figure who has been outspoken about Wilson and has donated to his opponent. Coincidentally, Baisden can't seem to get either of their names straight on aire. Either way, he and his crew are headed to S.C. in support of Wilson's opponent. Sounds like how they rallied people for Jena, LA. That massive family reunion was a huge fail after the fish fry grease dried up and folks began to realize that the Jena, as INDIVIDUALS, are nothing to rally behind.
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