Alabama Rush and First Cuts: Predetermined?

[KyKKGviaFlorida]

Has anyone heard what quota will be? Also, does anyone know how many invitations a PNM may accept each round? For example, a PNM will visit 16 houses during the two days of open house. Assuming no house cut her (!), how many houses will she attend during Phil, skit, and pref?

[shirley1929]

Originally Posted by KyKKGviaFlorida

Has anyone heard what quota will be? Also, does anyone know how many invitations a PNM may accept each round? For example, a PNM will visit 16 houses during the two days of open house. Assuming no house cut her (!), how many houses will she attend during Phil, skit, and pref?

It was mentioned somewhere that quota has the potential to be 100, but it won't be set until after they know how many women attend pref.

The rounds are 16/max 12/max 8/max 3.

EVERYTHING your PNM needs to know is either at:

http://www.uapanhellenic.com/

or

http://issuu.com/katgillan/docs/greek_chic_2012_final

[alphapimommy]

Letters were emailed To PNMs parents stating the 16/ 12/ 8/ 3 as well as a small explanation of the process and rounds of parties. Loved the line " If your daughter maximizes her options, meaning she attended all parties that she was invited to and lists all of the chapters that she visits during the preference round, then she is guaranteed to receive a bid for membership from any one of the chapters she lists on her MRABA (Membership Recruitment Acceptance Binding Agreement)
I guarantee there will be PNMs who don't list all and cry foul.....there always is!

[DDDlady]

Originally Posted by alphapimommy

Letters were emailed To PNMs parents stating the 16/ 12/ 8/ 3 as well as a small explanation of the process and rounds of parties. Loved the line " If your daughter maximizes her options, meaning she attended all parties that she was invited to and lists all of the chapters that she visits during the preference round, then she is guaranteed to receive a bid for membership from any one of the chapters she lists on her MRABA (Membership Recruitment Acceptance Binding Agreement)
I guarantee there will be PNMs who don't list all and cry foul.....there always is!

Oh course there will be. Princess Snowflake PNM will say that she did maximize her options by attending all parties and listing all chapters that were worthy of her. Any other parties/chapters were not really options and therefore not covered in this instance.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by alphapimommy

Letters were emailed To PNMs parents stating the 16/ 12/ 8/ 3 as well as a small explanation of the process and rounds of parties. Loved the line " If your daughter maximizes her options, meaning she attended all parties that she was invited to and lists all of the chapters that she visits during the preference round, then she is guaranteed to receive a bid for membership from any one of the chapters she lists on her MRABA (Membership Recruitment Acceptance Binding Agreement)
I guarantee there will be PNMs who don't list all and cry foul.....there always is!

Oy, I hope they make it clear that you are not guaranteed a bid if you are dropped prior to pref.

[Titchou]

It says "lists all of the chapters she visits during the preference round" so I think that pretty clear that if you don't attend preference, you are not getting a bid.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by Titchou

It says "lists all of the chapters she visits during the preference round" so I think that pretty clear that if you don't attend preference, you are not getting a bid.

Right, I know that's what it says. I think we all know that there is a gap between what we tell PNM's/moms and what they see/hear.

[Ladybugmom]

I know of an instance at D's school last year where a girl attended 3 pref parties, but only listed 2 on her card..left the third one off on purpose, and was released completely...the computer kicked her out....
She later blamed it on the Rho G's for not explaining to her that this could/would happen.

[AXOrushadvisor]

Originally Posted by Ladybugmom

I know of an instance at D's school last year where a girl attended 3 pref parties, but only listed 2 on her card..left the third one off on purpose, and was released completely...the computer kicked her out....
She later blamed it on the Rho G's for not explaining to her that this could/would happen.

Are there certain systems that do that? I was under the impression that Greek Life tells them that will happen because they don't want any one to SIP. I know our system lets you SIP.

[justgo_withit]

Originally Posted by Ladybugmom

I know of an instance at D's school last year where a girl attended 3 pref parties, but only listed 2 on her card..left the third one off on purpose, and was released completely...the computer kicked her out....
She later blamed it on the Rho G's for not explaining to her that this could/would happen.

Could it be that she went bidless because she wasn't high enough on either bid list, and she told people/someone told her that to try and make it seem less personal? I mean we'll never know where she was on the bid lists, but unless someone reputable from Panhellenic told her that she was dropped because the computer kicked her out (possibly with a reference to that part of their guidelines, as I don't think that's the kind of thing they would intentionally keep secret from PNMs) I'm more inclined to think this is a case of a girl saving face.

[Ladybugmom]

Originally Posted by justgo_withit

Could it be that she went bidless because she wasn't high enough on either bid list, and she told people/someone told her that to try and make it seem less personal? I mean we'll never know where she was on the bid lists, but unless someone reputable from Panhellenic told her that she was dropped because the computer kicked her out (possibly with a reference to that part of their guidelines, as I don't think that's the kind of thing they would intentionally keep secret from PNMs) I'm more inclined to think this is a case of a girl saving face.

My daughter is at UT, where they have guaranteed placement if you attend at least one pref party. This girl attended 3. The only thing I can think of is that if she attended 3 parties, but only listed 2, then she would be kicked out of the system...however, if she went to 3 parties, but only listed 1, that would be SIP... who knows, maybe she suicided and is not admitting to that??

[Greek_or_Geek?]

Originally Posted by Ladybugmom

I know of an instance at D's school last year where a girl attended 3 pref parties, but only listed 2 on her card..left the third one off on purpose, and was released completely...the computer kicked her out....
She later blamed it on the Rho G's for not explaining to her that this could/would happen.

This isn't correct. She attends a school with guaranteed placement. If she had listed all three, she would have received a bid from one, although probably the chapter she felt she was too good for. By not maximizing her options, she made herself ineligible for quota additions. The simple truth is she wasn't high enough on the other two groups' bid lists to receive a bid. There was no computer randomly "dropping" her or error.

[MaryPoppins]

It probably should have been typed like this, "lists ALL of the chapters she visits during the preference round."

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by MaryPoppins

It probably should have been typed like this, "lists ALL of the chapters she visits during the preference round."

I think that it should be worded in a way that emphasizes not just listing ALL, but actually being willing to accept a bid from each. That's usually the problems with snowflakes.

They are perfectly willing to list all their chapters if it will help get them a bid to their top one, but they don't really think they should have to join a group that they liked less.

[alphapimommy]

Snowflakes aside....we have parents who think that if their daughter gets to Pref and only goes to 1 party that she will automatically receive a bid to that house! Really??? Hasn't always happened that way in the past.