Osama Bin Laden Dead

[Ch2tf]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Lord knows that everyone else is farting and partying as though there's not a care in the world.

^^^This. I had a planned meet up with my bestie in NYC (half way point for both of us as I'm in Boston & she's in DC). Last week, I was excited about finding a $9 plane tix to EWR just outside of the city...Today not so much. Hell, I'm not thrilled about any of my other transportation options into NYC at this point.

I'm happy the deed was done, but if anything we all need to be even more vigiliant than we were yesterday.

[agzg]

HAHA women treated as second class citizens.

Oh.

[Kevin]

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Kevin

What the hell? What is this from?

ETA: Never mind. Found it lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3SFXQfE4kk

[southbymidwest]

To those who say that Obama making this decision was a no brainer, if you are old enough, you might remember an American military operation ordered by President Jimmy Carter in 1980. In an attempt to look tough,he okayed a joint services night mission to put an end to the neverending Iran hostage crisis by rescuing 52 Americans held captive at the U.S. Embassy in Tehran, Iran. It failed miserably. No one was rescued, helicopters were abandoned and captured by the Iranians, and American service members lost their lives in a helicopter crash. Their bodies were recovered by the Iranians, and paraded through the streets of Tehran. According to Wikipedia, "the public, humiliating debacle that ensued damaged American prestige worldwide and is believed by many, including Carter himself, to have played a major role in his defeat in the 1980 presidential election." You can't tell me that any president, after this mess, did not think about the possibilities of having to deal with the consequences of a failed mission like this one.

I wasn't a big fan of GWB (nor am I of Obama, actually), but I would absolutely give him (GWB) props for making the decision to proceed with a mission that resulted in the death of Bin Laden. No question.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by southbymidwest

To those who say that Obama making this decision was a no brainer, if you are old enough, you might remember an American military operation ordered by President Jimmy Carter in 1980.

This is exactly the example I was thinking of when I said that along with the credit, the Commander-in-Chief has to accept the blame. I remember that failed mission and the aftermath very well.

[svartekatta]

@ Kevin. No, as I stated, I´m not against celebrating. I just think the way of celebrating looked wrong and tacky

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Also, a lot of people in my death pool have him, so I'm kinda bitter about that.

In your what??

Originally Posted by als463

Trust me, there are a lot more than you realize.

You know that GWB would not have gotten the accolades for this. Let's be honest.

GWB got huge accolades for capturing Saddam Hussein. Of course he would have gotten accolades for capturing Osama Bin Laden. Most of us who were upset with GWB were upset because of the switch in focus from OBL to Saddam but STILL gave him accolades for capturing Saddam Hussein.

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

That's fine, but today, many are pretending that getting OBL was our goal all along.

It is what most people thought was the goal all along, since the first day we went into Afghanistan.

Originally Posted by IrishLake

Exactly. There would still be celebrations even if he had been taken alive. (Even though it has been stated that taking him captive was never the goal or even an option).

Totally agree. I see no difference in the celebration factor whether he was taken dead or alive. He was taken, that was all that mattered to me.

Originally Posted by als463

Thank you for understanding what I am trying to say. Also, thanks for calling me a hero...lol-I'm far from that, I think. No, in all seriousness, I feel like this victory is somewhat being taken away from our men and women in uniform because many of Obama's supporters (not all-I don't want to generalize) are looking at those of us who didn't vote for him and saying, "See...See what happened? See, it's because of Obama that the world is a safer place. Bush did nothing for us but, Obama rocks!" It went from being, "Yay-we are Americans who care about our freedom and safety" to "Look at what Obama did."

That's what annoys me. I realize we can all agree to disagree. That's great. Just don't lose the message that freedom isn't free and many people who came before the Navy Seals that killed Osama Bin Laden and those who will go after, are the reason we can rally in the streets over the death of a terrorist. I have nothing but respect for my military brothers and sisters. I also respect (but, maybe don't care for) our President. Let's remember that this is about unity and being proud of America.

You are totally personalizing this. I haven't heard anybody have anything but huge praise for the troops. My FB exploded with praise and thanks to all service men/women. If yours didn't, you need new friends

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Tell me, what exactly would it look like if we "bow down to their ideology"?

Originally Posted by agzg

HAHA women treated as second class citizens.

Oh.

I'm still peeved that the Equal Rights Amendment never passed :/

Originally Posted by southbymidwest

To those who say that Obama making this decision was a no brainer, if you are old enough, you might remember an American military operation ordered by President Jimmy Carter in 1980.

I wasn't a big fan of GWB (nor am I of Obama, actually), but I would absolutely give him (GWB) props for making the decision to proceed with a mission that resulted in the death of Bin Laden. No question.

Ditto. 100%. I too recall the botched Iran Hostage operation and believe it cost him the next election.

The irony of this thread is that last night, as Republicans and Democrats alike from all over the country were "celebrating" on Facebook, I thought "We really needed something to unify us because we are so polarized now and this definitely reminded people that we are ONE." People were feeling all happy and patriotic. Then I read this thread and people STILL find reasons/ways to be divided. That's sad to me, very sad.

[IrishLake]

^ Concur with Dee.

[BluPhire]

I was wondering how long in this thread it would take before folks started getting political.


LOL @ the Foolish and the Foolish games they play.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by BluPhire

I was wondering how long in this thread it would take before folks started getting political.


LOL @ the Foolish and the Foolish games they play.

What?

[BluPhire]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

What?

Oh nothing. Just another day on the internet.

[als463]

Did you all see that the Vatican made a statement regarding the death of Osama Bin Laden? It's times like this that I always wonder what people are thinking in every country, other than America.

[sweetmagnolia]

I really enjoyed this Foreign Policy article by David Rothkopf

http://rothkopf.foreignpolicy.com/po..._meets_the_eye

[knight_shadow]

^^^ FYI -- here's a link:

http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/0...56703320110502