Michael Richards aka "Kramer" racist?

[cutie_cat_4ever]

Originally Posted by southernelle25

Even if you could explain away or justify his use of the n-word, there is no excuse or justification for the reference to lynching.

Good point. That's the whole point about this thing, is that it started out with the racial comment about 50 years ago lynching. Period. that is racist itself... regardless of the n-word

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by Phasad1913

Oh, but I could have SWORN you pointed out that the black man in the audience used the word cracker and you thought that was just as bad:

Um, let's see "Pretty bad.....bud it wasn't any better for the guys to call him a "cracker ass mother fucking white boy."

Ahh, yes, you DID say that. So now what are you saying? Changing your perspective to fit the argument, ey?

And I guess perhaps YOU need to turn on the tv and watch something other then BET to get yourself all rowled up and mad at black people and watch some of the other media because white trash and poor white trash is thrown around quite often by white toward other whites and if you think otherwise, again, you are not nearly as exposed as necessary to credible if you are going to participate in discussions like this.

Hey asshole, I never said I was riled up or mad at black people. Thanks. Idiot. WTF is wrong with you? Maybe you should learn how to read. I never said that it was OK for Michael Richards to do what he did because the black guys called him a "cracker ass mother fucking white boy." I said it wasn't any better of them to call him that. I never said that Richards was fully justified to continue his tirade. Reading comprehension is a valuable commodity. I believe I also said what he did was completely inexcusable.

If you are going to continue being and ubelieveable dickhead and correct grammar...then i've got nothing else for you.

[southernelle25]

Originally Posted by Phasad1913

My main point is this: the man said it and it is clear as day what he meant. There is no reading between the lines to get an indication of a less sinister meaning. He said "throw him out, he's a nigger! he's a nigger". He said "50 year ago we, WE(!) would have had you upside down with a fork up your ass." That's some sick stuff and if you brush it off, then you are just as bad as he is.

It could have been worse. He could have said it in Mississippi. I don't know whether he would have made it off the stage in one piece...

[laylo]

Originally Posted by macallan25

Hey asshole, I never said I was riled up or mad at black people. Thanks. Idiot. WTF is wrong with you? Maybe you should learn how to read. I never said that it was OK for Michael Richards to do what he did because the black guys called him a "cracker ass mother fucking white boy." I said it wasn't any better of them to call him that. I never said that Richards was fully justified to continue his tirade. Reading comprehension is a valuable commodity. I believe I also said what he did was completely inexcusable.

If you are going to continue being and ubelieveable dickhead and correct grammar...then i've got nothing else for you.

I think he was referring to the fact that "not as bad" = better. So it is a contradiction to say "its not any better" and then say "it's not as bad".

I find it interesting that you called Sensuret sensitive and flustered for stating a simple, logical, non-emotional argument, but are now cursing and insulting people.

[Phasad1913]

Originally Posted by macallan25

Hey asshole, I never said I was riled up or mad at black people. Thanks. Idiot. WTF is wrong with you? Maybe you should learn how to read. I never said that it was OK for Michael Richards to do what he did because the black guys called him a "cracker ass mother fucking white boy." I said it wasn't any better of them to call him that. I never said that Richards was fully justified to continue his tirade. Reading comprehension is a valuable commodity. I believe I also said what he did was completely inexcusable.

If you are going to continue being and ubelieveable dickhead and correct grammar...then i've got nothing else for you.

You're a loser. Go screw yourself...again! you need to grow and learn how to have people disagree with you without resorting to name calling. You're wrong on this issue, as you are on most and you can't handle it. That's a problem you need to fix. I'll be all of the names you called me for speaking my mind and calling you out on YOUR inconsistencies AND spelling errors. You have to deal with being you. That's worse than anything you can call me. I'm done wasting my time on you. The moment you stoop to that level is the moment I move on. Good luck to you.

Kramer's history of hatred

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[macallan25]

Originally Posted by Phasad1913

You're a loser. Go screw yourself...again! you need to grow and learn how to have people disagree with you without resorting to name calling. You're wrong on this issue, as you are on most and you can't handle it. That's a problem you need to fix. I'll be all of the names you called me for speaking my mind and calling you out on YOUR inconsistencies AND spelling errors. You have to deal with being you. That's worse than anything you can call me. I'm done wasting my time on you. The moment you stoop to that level is the moment I move on. Good luck to you.

Thanks....i'll remember those words of wisdom. The fact is......you read my original post completely wrong......changed it to your liking via quoting it.....and are now telling me that I am inconsistent. You are a hypocritical moron. You put words in my mouth and tried to tell me what I did and didn't think, which was ridiculous. As far as the spelling errors....ITS A MESSAGE BOARD. If you want to be a douchebaggish English teacher.....then get off the computer and go teach 6th grade L&R.

What am I wrong about? Please enlighten me.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by macallan25

So what do you call a person that calls a black man "nigger/nigga" just because he always heres them saying it to each other and didn't think anything bad about it. I don't know if there is actually anyone that naive still left on the planet......but it could happen. Do you call him a racist?

That person is called an idiot who is looking for an excuse to use the word.

I hear whites call each other white trash and Hispanics call each other "spic" but I've never wondered if it would be appropriate for me to use those terms. As I always say when this topic comes up, if people want to use certain words and phrases within-group, it's not my job to challenge it or wonder why I can't do it. Why would I WANT to do it?!

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Phasad1913

You obviously saw some correlation between the Richards comments and his hypo.

No, I did not. You are putting words in my mouth (or rather, thoughts in my brain).

I responded to a hypothetical with a real life situation. I've done the same in other threads, to things that may or may not have had anything to do with the topic of the thread.

The hypothetical and my anecdote arose as a tangent from the original premise of the thread, but don't necessarily have anything to do with how one feels about the original subject of the thread. I could have just as easily told a story about going to a comedy club and heckling someone.

[AlexMack]

Originally Posted by Phasad1913

Since you went out on the limb, let me correct YOU. In the first post where he made the spelling error, he used the term "improbable". Sorry YOU took offense to my decision to correct HIM.

Oh I'm so sorry, I forgot to scour the thread for the mysterious first post you didn't bother to quote in your little grammar tantrum. My mistake, won't happen again.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by macallan25

Why do black people call themselves that all the time?

You just worry about not using those terms.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by cutie_cat_4ever

you have to admit that the younger generation isn't exposed to what the African Americans had suffer in the past, they do not realize that "seriousness" of this word. And it doesn't help that certain music genres use of such rasicts words (also sexist if you want, different versions of racial slur), it makes does in fact make people less and less aware of how much insult and harm by just saying those words can do.

No......

[Reds6]

Originally Posted by macallan25

I am not claiming anything....stop putting fucking words in my mouth. I never discounted anyone's "experience." That is why I said, more than once, that I was referring to the use of the word on a much wider scale, not so much at the personal level. I am glad that the 4 or 5 people who said they don't use that word spoke up.....thats great. I'm happy for yall.

I am white......and I don't think it is as bad as calling a black man a n***** at all, period.

Are you getting frazzeld with the cursing?
And just because you don't thinks its as bad as the n-word there are some whites that think it is just as bad.

[_Opi_]

Originally Posted by macallan25

Why do black people call themselves that all the time? I'm sorry but its almost like they are welcoming the probobility of a non-black using the word towards them. I certainly don't go around calling my friends "crackers" and "whiteys."

I don't care why people call each other that. The word in and of itself is racist and if you use it, don't go crying about it if someone calls you out on it.

[cutie_cat_4ever]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

No......

Well, as I said, that's just my opinion of how I see this society is nowadays.