Gays in fraternites (pt. 2)

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Pledgetrainer

I'm on here because one of them is my pledge brother and I figured I'd make a screen name and point it out while bored at work. He simply got a message that said he was banned, no reason given, and this was the only thread he'd really posted in. Other greek-related forums are considerably freer. This one might as well be controlled by the Chinese government, or possibly SigEp nationals. Ban me, delete my posts, whatever...trust me I'm not too invested in this.

Well, keep fighting the good fight.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Pledgetrainer

I'm on here because one of them is my pledge brother and I figured I'd make a screen name and point it out while bored at work. He simply got a message that said he was banned, no reason given, and this was the only thread he'd really posted in. Other greek-related forums are considerably freer. This one might as well be controlled by the Chinese government, or possibly SigEp nationals. Ban me, delete my posts, whatever...trust me I'm not too invested in this.

Yet you're still posting...

[Pledgetrainer]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Yet you're still posting...

As I said, bored at work, might as well sit back and watch the show..hope one of you obliges. Think I'll go check out my fraternity's forum and see how gay we are nationally.

[LaneSig]

Originally Posted by Pledgetrainer

I'm on here because one of them is my pledge brother and I figured I'd make a screen name and point it out while bored at work. He simply got a message that said he was banned, no reason given, and this was the only thread he'd really posted in. Other greek-related forums are considerably freer. This one might as well be controlled by the Chinese government, or possibly SigEp nationals. Ban me, delete my posts, whatever...trust me I'm not too invested in this.

"This was the only thread he'd really posted in". Then neither could be your pledge brother, because both had made a lot of posts in this discussion and other threads.

[CrackerBarrel]

Originally Posted by LaneSig

"This was the only thread he'd really posted in". Then neither could be your pledge brother, because both had made a lot of posts in this discussion and other threads.

Bowsandtoes1000 joined last night.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Pledgetrainer

I don't think a single fraternity where I'm at would let in a gay. P.S. - if you have an opinion that someone somewhere might take offense with, they'll ban you for it in a heartbeat. banned Southernfratter and bowsandtoes just for this thread, and they weren't even being offensive...this website is a farce. And no, neither of those was me.

Welp, some cleaning up happened last night. I doubt it was just for what they typed in this thread. We were just having a discussion.

GC is sometimes big on censorship but banning requires more than differing opinions. Unless you know for a fact that they were banned for no reason, have a seat.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by Pledgetrainer

I don't think a single fraternity where I'm at would let in a gay. P.S. - if you have an opinion that someone somewhere might take offense with, they'll ban you for it in a heartbeat. banned Southernfratter and bowsandtoes just for this thread, and they weren't even being offensive...this website is a farce. And no, neither of those was me.

B&T(both versions) and SF where most likely banned for many more reasons than what you know.

And as already pointed out, why the 20+ postings in a "farce"?

And IF you are a Brother of mine, please feel free to contact me over in SAE's National GC (The other one).
We then can take this conversation to a more private level.

[Pledgetrainer]

Originally Posted by jon1856

B&T(both versions) and SF where most likely banned for many more reasons than what you know.

And as already pointed out, why the 20+ postings in a "farce"?

And IF you are a Brother of mine, please feel free to contact me over in SAE's National GC (The other one).
We then can take this conversation to a more private level.

I am indeed a brother of yours, and feel free to PM me. I indicated when I decided to take my presence here from posting about my amusement (not really the word i want but it'll do) about the banning of my pledge brother, to seriously contributing to the discussion.

[PrettyOnMyRight]

One of my LB's is gay and it doesn't make me love him any less. Granted, he didn't come out until after we graduated GRAD SCHOOL, that does not undermine the fact that we went through the same things and we crossed those Sands TOGETHER. So be he gay or straight, he is the same man that I pledged with some twenty odd years ago. And I can live with that. But on to the point of the MB, as I have come to understand it, he is one of the more active members in his current alumni chapter so, no, gay people should not be banned from being members of our organizations. My organization, for instance, was founded upon the principle of achievement in every field of human endeavor. And personally, that man has achieved more than some of the straight frats.

[AEPi BP]

After reading 4 pages of this, I couldn't read everything before I posted (I do have finals I need to study for) but I figured I should represent what appears to be a minority, and that is a member of a chapter that welcomes gays. At first I thought it was because our campus is gay-friendly, but of the 10 houses on campus, we have gays, one house is VERY gay friendly (and in fact one of their gay members was just elected Greek Council president for the next year), and maybe one other has an openly gay member or two but other than that I would venture the rest have never even had an openly gay member. Our chapter adviser for the last 3 years is an openly gay alumnus. We live in a house, but it has never been an issue. We've had our gay brothers bring guys as their dates to formal, one of them has boyfriend he's been dating pretty much all year, and I always see him around the house and he's good friends with a lot of brothers. We've had at least one openly gay president, and many e-board positions have been filled by our gay brothers, including rush chair.

It's weird to me that someone could immediately say that because someone is gay their interests and ideologies automatically won't match up. As people have alluded to, there are lot of sexual fetishes out there, and I would venture that most people don't let what they do in the bedroom affect them too much. If you say that since gays have to live with ridicule, that it makes them different people, well then maybe if we don't ridicule them, they won't be so psychologically traumatized by the fact that they are gay.

[CrackerBarrel]

Well if no one was offended or annoyed, why the heck were the two last night banned? Because they said they thought it was wrong to be gay and thus didn't want to associate with them and in some vague and likely nonexistant way that violates the TOS?

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

Well if no one was offended or annoyed, why the heck were the two last night banned? Because they said they thought it was wrong to be gay and thus didn't want to associate with them and in some vague and likely nonexistant way that violates the TOS?

I may be getting my FHers confused at this point, but wasn't SF the one making poor attempts at Holocaust humor? And I don't know what bowsandtoes the first did last night, but he was all up in that little wolf pack the other night posting unbelievably disgusting images and making sport of "outing" people with facebook pictures, etc. You boys are something when you get your pack mentality on.

[Pledgetrainer]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

I may be getting my FHers confused at this point, but wasn't SF the one making poor attempts at Holocaust humor? And I don't know what bowsandtoes the first did last night, but he was all up in that little wolf pack the other night posting unbelievably disgusting images and making sport of "outing" people with facebook pictures, etc. You boys are something when you get your pack mentality on.

Assumptions make for weak arguments. I know for a fact the bowsandtoes I know was not involved in the FH pack, because we first saw this website mentioned in the report of that little escapade on FH (hope this doesn't count as advertising another website). SF I can't speak for.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by Pledgetrainer

I know for a fact the bowsandtoes I know was not involved in the FH pack

You're incorrect. The original bandt (not the new 1000 version) was absolutely part of that mayhem, I was there during most of it and posted directly to him more than once. And I'm as over the subject as I'm sure you are now so let's just KIM...

[Senusret I]

Have you tried PMing a supermoderator or the site owner?

Do you really care that much?