What do people think about ethnic GLOs

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

I think that's a poor excuse because on my campus the numbers are not that far off.

Last year at greek week my sorority had 9 members. all but two were new that year and had no idea what to expect with greek week. but we still participated. not because we expected to win every event, in fact i think we only actually won one or two. we participated because it's a fun thing to do. if you think your group would have a fun time with it, they why not participate? just because you're smaller or you've never done it before is no good reason.

[DSTCHAOS]

I'm laughing because this Greek Week thing comes up all the time as if that makes or breaks anything when it comes to organizational and racial integration on college campuses. On many campuses, Greek Week is a surface level integration that allows the school and organizations to say they provide opportunities for inclusion and participation. That's it.

[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I'm laughing because this Greek Week thing comes up all the time as if that makes or breaks anything when it comes to organizational and racial integration on college campuses. On many campuses, Greek Week is a surface level integration that allows the school and organizations to say they provide opportunities for inclusion and participation. That's it.

You mean that groups separately working on floats, training for tug o' war matches, or doing whatever other random activity, then for a few hours or so per activity getting together to show each other what they've all been doing totally separate from one another, does not in fact build great and meaningful unity??? I'm shocked!

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

RIP Erik P Conard

He is my first e-person passing. Dang it felt just as sad as if I had known him personally.

I guess in spite of our differences we are all united in this e-world.

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

I went to Minnesota, my home town.

And you didn't call me???? LOL

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by DSTRen13

You mean that groups separately working on floats, training for tug o' war matches, or doing whatever other random activity, then for a few hours or so per activity getting together to show each other what they've all been doing totally separate from one another, does not in fact build great and meaningful unity??? I'm shocked!

You're just a Greek Week hater.

Originally Posted by ladygreek

He is my first e-person passing. Dang it felt just as sad as if I had known him personally.

I guess in spite of our differences we are all united in this e-world.

I honestly was taken aback when I read that thread of his passing.

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by PhrozenGod01

That's the way it is at my school. It's not that any NPHC groups avoid the IFC/NPC greek week or the harcore homecoming/spring-jam competitions, it's just that more time and resources were spent for a full week for each individual organization. Most of the campus activities our groups hold are packed. We are able to be more flexible and creative with the activities we want to have as well. I mean, coming out for a game of flag football or kickball would be one thing, but to spend months preparing for a co-ed ultimate frisbee competition along with a gymnastics/dance/lip sync hybrid that only means something to a very small percentage of the student body just seems exhausting.

But that is just an account of my school. Other greeks at other schools do things a lot differently. Honestly, it's nothing personal. It's more like the planning of those "greek week" type activities is terrible on my campus. When a bunch of NPC/IFC members complain how they would rather be somewhere else than at some of those practices and functions, it's hard to really be inspired to make an obligation.

So true about the U of MN. I mean we are barely able to keep our chapters vital within our own orgs--which is why many of us have citywide chapters that incorporate other schools in the Cities.

The chartering of DST actually happened because of Macalaster, not the U of MN. And I believe the same with the Kappas.

[L.O.C.K.]

I HATE Greek Week. When I was president of our MGC (which at the time was all the Black, Latino/a, and Asian Greeks on campus), we decided to participate in Greek Week.

They gave us a day to have an event. We had a charity bowling event where orgs brought books as their fee for participating. PhiPsi brought like 120 books. THAT part was awesome.

What was not awesome was the focus on the stupid competitions and how the NPC/IFC orgs just send their pledges in their place, instead of actual members going.

Needless to say, planning it with the NPC/IFC leadership was like being beaten with a rusty hammer and then having vingegar poured in the wounds.

The MGC organizations were MUCH more focused on having philanthropy be a large part of it, while the IFC orgs only cared about competition (which was good for us for the donating the books) and the NPC orgs cared about the damn T-Shirt design.

I am not hating on general councils, just that from my experience in organizing Greek Week and going to those God-forsaken awful meetings with ignorant leaderhsip was not something I want to do again.


But, here's to unity and looking good for the school paper!! ::rolls eyes::

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by L.O.C.K.

I HATE Greek Week. When I was president of our MGC (which at the time was all the Black, Latino/a, and Asian Greeks on campus), we decided to participate in Greek Week.

They gave us a day to have an event. We had a charity bowling event where orgs brought books as their fee for participating. PhiPsi brought like 120 books. THAT part was awesome.

What was not awesome was the focus on the stupid competitions and how the NPC/IFC orgs just send their pledges in their place, instead of actual members going.

Needless to say, planning it with the NPC/IFC leadership was like being beaten with a rusty hammer and then having vingegar poured in the wounds.

The MGC organizations were MUCH more focused on having philanthropy be a large part of it, while the IFC orgs only cared about competition (which was good for us for the donating the books) and the NPC orgs cared about the damn T-Shirt design.

I am not hating on general councils, just that from my experience in organizing Greek Week and going to those God-forsaken awful meetings with ignorant leaderhsip was not something I want to do again.


But, here's to unity and looking good for the school paper!! ::rolls eyes::

LOL.

Many individuals and groups just don't see the fun or value in Greek Week and don't think it's worth sacrificing anything to participate in. We sacrifice for our organizations because we pledged lifetime commitments to them. So we will do things for the university and community that we don't always have the time or inclination to do otherwise. Greek Week sometimes not included.

An example is that parties and stepshows are usually fundraisers for chapter operations and philanthropy. Sure stepshows and parties are part of the social aspect and sometimes good for Greek unity but most of the time they are tedious and tiring undertakings. If we could raise the money for the chapter without coordinating or stepping in stepshows and parties, many chapters would. And we'd just ATTEND another chapter's stepshows and parties if we are looking for a social outlet.

So when someone tells us that we have to attend events that have no real benefit to us in many contexts, many of us would rather spend our time and energy in more important and necessary places.

[PhrozenGod01]

Originally Posted by L.O.C.K.

Needless to say, planning it with the NPC/IFC leadership was like being beaten with a rusty hammer and then having vingegar poured in the wounds.

The MGC organizations were MUCH more focused on having philanthropy be a large part of it, while the IFC orgs only cared about competition (which was good for us for the donating the books) and the NPC orgs cared about the damn T-Shirt design.

I am not hating on general councils, just that from my experience in organizing Greek Week and going to those God-forsaken awful meetings with ignorant leaderhsip was not something I want to do again.


But, here's to unity and looking good for the school paper!! ::rolls eyes::

I totally, 100% feel you on this. I sat in on a Greek President's meeting at my school and walked out early. There was about ten minutes worth of important discussion about matters that were relevant to the campus, and then the next hour of the meeting dealt with different orgs arguing over the specific rules and policies regarding a recruitment brochure. I left before the Greek Awards planning debate. I hope the student body wasn't too upset.

I'll admit that the NPHC orgs on my campus have had some differences and rivalries, but our discussions at meetings are necessary only to make sure that two or three orgs don't have important programs or functions scheudled on the same day. I swear that most of the archaic rules surrounding fraternities and sororities on campus were made because of IFC/NPC organizations.

[BlueNYC2]

Originally Posted by mccoyred

This is the first time I have heard BGLOs described as 'new'. I mean some have been around for almost a century!

word...only relatively new BGLO is Iota Phi Theta and thats gonna be 44 years old this year

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by jessicaelaine

Last year at greek week my sorority had 9 members. all but two were new that year and had no idea what to expect with greek week. but we still participated. not because we expected to win every event, in fact i think we only actually won one or two. we participated because it's a fun thing to do. if you think your group would have a fun time with it, they why not participate? just because you're smaller or you've never done it before is no good reason.

I agree.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

I went to Minnesota, my home town.

CG I think your spelling is off again.

Wow! What part are you from? I'm from Fargo. Itsy bitsy world huh?

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

And you didn't call me???? LOL

It's always nice to see someone else from Minnesota on GC.

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes

You're not going to get a straight answer for this simply b/c every GLO is viewed differently by everyone. Some orgs might see you guys in a positive light and others might have a different opinion.

I agree, but ouside of the NPHC, I really don't have enough interest in the other GLOs to care about their views about us. I respect them, but just not any interest.