What do people think about ethnic GLOs

[mccoyred]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

My personal opinion is that it strongly conflicts with the traditional southern fraternities. They're usually incredibly new (including the BGLO's), don't support traditional southern style, and do not attract the needed attention from the campus as a whole. That being said, I think they are necessary in campuses which are naturally de facto segregated. They provide a place for the ethnics which they would not regularly get in the traditional fraternity.

This is the first time I have heard BGLOs described as 'new'. I mean some have been around for almost a century!

[jubilance1922]

Originally Posted by mccoyred

This is the first time I have heard BGLOs described as 'new'. I mean some have been around for almost a century!

Apparently being around for 80 - 100 years is "new" now....

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by jubilance1922

Apparently being around for 80 - 100 years is "new" now....

Compared to several which are over 250 years old, yeah it's new. A chapter founded a century ago at many southern campuses is considered new row.

By traditionally southern fraternities, I mean fraternities who don't do step shows and take pride in the social aspect rather than the philanthropic aspect. Furthermore, fraternities who have usually had houses for over a hundred years and so on. I can go in great detail, but I don't think it's necessary to enumerate.

It is not important for these fraternities to be founded in the south (See: DKE at Alabama), but it is important for them to consider traditional southern values as important.

[jubilance1922]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

Compared to several which are over 250 years old, yeah it's new. A chapter founded a century ago at many southern campuses is considered new row.

By traditionally southern fraternities, I mean fraternities who don't do step shows and take pride in the social aspect rather than the philanthropic aspect. Furthermore, fraternities who have usually had houses for over a hundred years and so on. I can go in great detail, but I don't think it's necessary to enumerate.

It is not important for these fraternities to be founded in the south (See: DKE at Alabama), but it is important for them to consider traditional southern values as important.

I don't care about "traditional" or "southern" fraternities. The only orgs I care about are all members of the NPHC.

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by jubilance1922

I don't care about "traditional" or "southern" fraternities. The only orgs I care about are all members of the NPHC.

....okay?

Do you want a cookie for that? I only care about traditional southern fraternities. It doesn't really matter. You asked how I could consider BGLO's new and I told you why they are incredibly new.

[jubilance1922]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

....okay?

Do you want a cookie for that? I only care about traditional southern fraternities. It doesn't really matter. You asked how I could consider BGLO's new and I told you why they are incredibly new.

You're an idiot.

Do me a favor and put me on ignore. Please.

[Elephant Walk]

Okay I'll do this to you the same way I do every GreekChatter because they always back down and are always pathetic. How am I an idiot?

[daydreamer1112]

I don't really like the idea of ethnic GLOs. Having seperate fraternities and sororities for the seperate ethnicities creates additional seperation between races, and I think that's detrimental. At the same time, I do realize that many ethnic people are interested in joining ethnic GLOs because they don't believe they would be accepted and respected in traditional GLOs (and sometimes, this is true), they have a lot of pride in their race and want to show it, or they simply feel more comfortable with people who come from the same racial background as they do. So, in short, I can see how and why people might feel the desire to join ethnic GLOs, but I hope that at some point in the future we become colorblind enough as a society that those reasons are obsolete.

[PeppyGPhiB]

I think racially based GLOs make sense on some campuses, but needlessly divide students on others. At my school, in California, all the NPC/IFC groups were racially integrated anyway, so to add BGLO/AGLO/HGLO to the mix might have actually led to the NPC/IFC organizations becoming more white. From what southern GCers have said, though, these groups might have more of a basis/draw in the south or on other campuses.

[mccoyred]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

Compared to several which are over 250 years old, yeah it's new. A chapter founded a century ago at many southern campuses is considered new row.

Touche. However, when you look at the NPHC orgs, you see orgs who are in the same form now as they were when they were founded almost 100 years ago. Many, if not the majority, of IFC/NPC groups changed/evolved/merged/consolidated/etc. to their current forms which flies in the face of your 'traditional' argument.

I won't even go into 'Southern Traditions'...

[Elephant Walk]

Go to a predominately black frat party and there is usually very little alcohol with lots of dancing and strutting.

And lots of fighting.

Black fraternities on campus here now have to have their parties at the HPER (gym) because all their registered parties end in fights in the parking lot.

[ejay286]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

And lots of fighting.

Black fraternities on campus here now have to have their parties at the HPER (gym) because all their registered parties end in fights in the parking lot.

Ok well if we are gonna go that route, look at how many deaths there are involving white frats and parties due to alcohol poisoning etc. And there is a very high incidence rate of rapes at these frat houses as well, many of which go unreported.

And why exactly was this brought up anyway? I thought we were discussing the reasons a minority would want to join a minority based organization, not the shortcomings of greek life.

[DSTCHAOS]

Threads like this are never a good idea.

And we've discussed this topic in some form or another on this board numerious times.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by ejay286

And why exactly was this brought up anyway?

Because BGLOs are not traditional Southern fraternities based on the white standard of "Southern tradition." We fight, dance and stroll too much. We need to fight, drink, and rape more to be considered traditional.

Since what ignorant members of any GLO do is about the organizational structures and not about the ignorant members themselves. It's a given on many campuses and in many cities that the mixture of alcohol, testosterone, group rivalry of some sort, and even local area nonGreeks in many cases often results in violence.

[BlueNYC2]

Originally Posted by mccoyred

This is the first time I have heard BGLOs described as 'new'. I mean some have been around for almost a century!

word...only relatively new BGLO is Iota Phi Theta and thats gonna be 44 years old this year