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06-22-2004, 04:51 PM
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06-22-2004, 04:59 PM
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I've researched it, and I have formed my opinions.
Every single one I have met is loud, annoying, stuck up, judge by appearence, popularity contest, etc.
I have my opinion and you all have yours. Last year I was also invited to dinner with an old friend (who also changed very much). I could not believe how fake they were, and also the petty things they fought over.
I guess I just feel more independent (sp?) taking care of myself and forming friendships with people that I like.
I understand your opinions are different from mine, and that's just fine.
And as a side note, I volunteer at a soup kitchen and I can do charity and not be in a sorority. I also have my own connections with people all over the WORLD by talking/meeting people and traveling.
If those are reasons why being in a sorority is important, then it is not for me.
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06-22-2004, 05:10 PM
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I guess I just feel more independent (sp?) taking care of myself and forming friendships with people that I like.
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so since i joined a sorority, i can't?
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06-22-2004, 05:17 PM
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Every single one I have met is loud, annoying, stuck up, judge by appearence, popularity contest, etc.
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And how many would that be?
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06-22-2004, 05:18 PM
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And as a side note, I volunteer at a soup kitchen and I can do charity and not be in a sorority. I also have my own connections with people all over the WORLD by talking/meeting people and traveling.
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That's great that you help out on your own. I do too. I also travel the world. I am in a sorority too, but I don't go on to websites for things that I don't agree with and decide to speak down to people because they have chosen to align themselves with those things.
I don't think every greek I have met is loud, annoying, stuck up and judge others by their appearances, but then again some have.....but so does the general populous, that is not just a "greek" trait. I've met plenty of fake non-greeks. I too also value friendships with people I like...that is kind of the idea behind making friends, isn't it?
Charity work is no reason to join a sorority, it's just one of the things that we do. I think that your research has not be very thorough and that it would be wise for you to look around with your eyes open and without the stereotypical blinders on as well.
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06-22-2004, 05:28 PM
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greencup, maybe the reason they seem loud and outgoing is that they feel comfortable with them selves and the Brothers/Sisters who will be standing beside them.
It seems that every positive thing that is said about what Greeks do is a negative to you and you can counter every thought and post,
then maybe Greek Life is not for you.
You seem to pride yourself in participating in charity things and know all sorts of people for contacts around the world, again, I state, maybe Greek Life is not for you.
Seeing as how you seem to be so closed minded then, you are the only one to blame if you do not look with open eys and investigate.
So, I and am sure all of us wish you good luck in your journey into life.
Oh, just for your info, I am attending a Alum gathering tonight at one of the Brothers house, and a bunh of Alums are going to a Base Ball Game Sat. It is not two or three, it is 20-30. Nice to be with My Fellow Brothers that range in and from #1-#568.
That is what being a Greek is all about.
As many posted here, we all went through a period of being afraid to try something new, but once We got there, it was a window that opened to the world.
That is why many of us on G C have become close friends and many from different Organizations not just our individaul Organizations.
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06-22-2004, 05:30 PM
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It has to be said...
People, this moron wants us to attack her like this because we all see what an ignorant, closed-minded idiot she is.
She gives us stuff to quote and respond to knowing that we have a legit answer to them.
Just leave her alone......she's not going to change her mind about us, so just let her think what she wants to think....
It's not our fault she's oatmeal north of the eyebrows...
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06-23-2004, 12:35 AM
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I don't object to people coming on here who might not be 100% behind Greek life or not understand why we like it but there's a right and wrong way to do it...
If greencup had said, I lived with a girl and she seemed to really change after she joined her sorority and I'm concerned, and our Greek system seems like they are superficial, I think everyone would have asked what happened and tried to help. People have asked similar questions and we've had good discussions and give & take. But for someone to come on and say I hate our Greek system, what's so great, why would you join....sorry but if you are that rude to others I don't know why they should be NOT rude in return.
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I agree! Greencup should have chosen the way to state her concerns and ask her question in a manner that would have yielded positive feedback. However, she chose to express her concerns in a negative way and she got negativity in return.
BTW greencup, minds are like books and parachutes. They only function when they are open.
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06-23-2004, 02:19 AM
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Phuck all ya'll...
There was a party here this weekend and NO ONE invited me?
Alls ya'll are off tha damn invite list.
:humph:
<lifesaver walks around the dirty living room to the fridge frantically searching for a leftover DosEquis so he can sorta say he was at the party>
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06-23-2004, 04:03 AM
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frat boys are better at everything
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06-23-2004, 08:03 AM
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naw
I've researched it, and I have formed my opinions.
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Right. Or you just went on the internet and picked fights with greeks until they told you to shut your piehole.
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Every single one I have met is loud, annoying, stuck up, judge by appearence, popularity contest, etc.
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Well, that's what we do. When we're not having lingerie pillow fights and making ourselves throw up, anyway.
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I have my opinion and you all have yours. Last year I was also invited to dinner with an old friend (who also changed very much). I could not believe how fake they were, and also the petty things they fought over.
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How fortuntate for the friend that you were able to make it. Bet you're a real winner to have at a dinner party.
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I guess I just feel more independent (sp?) taking care of myself and forming friendships with people that I like.
I understand your opinions are different from mine, and that's just fine.
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You have certainly demonstrated independent thought so far. What was that about how everyone at U of M hates fraternities and sororities, so you do too?
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And as a side note, I volunteer at a soup kitchen and I can do charity and not be in a sorority. I also have my own connections with people all over the WORLD by talking/meeting people and traveling.
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Where are my achievement medals when I need them? Someone give this girl a cookie.
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If those are reasons why being in a sorority is important, then it is not for me.
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I am so damn glad you're not in my sorority, or for that matter, anywhere NEAR me! Holy smokes -- who would want to be around such a soul-sucking, depressing, know-it-all, self-righetous person? NO THANKS.
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06-23-2004, 09:21 AM
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Originally posted by greencup
naw
I've researched it, and I have formed my opinions.
Every single one I have met is loud, annoying, stuck up, judge by appearence, popularity contest, etc.
I have my opinion and you all have yours. Last year I was also invited to dinner with an old friend (who also changed very much). I could not believe how fake they were, and also the petty things they fought over.
I guess I just feel more independent (sp?) taking care of myself and forming friendships with people that I like.
I understand your opinions are different from mine, and that's just fine.
And as a side note, I volunteer at a soup kitchen and I can do charity and not be in a sorority. I also have my own connections with people all over the WORLD by talking/meeting people and traveling.
If those are reasons why being in a sorority is important, then it is not for me.
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I have a friend who says the samething. Ask yourself this question. Have your friend changed or did you change?
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06-23-2004, 09:37 AM
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Sometimes Greek Systems at certain Universities suck. It sucks here. Don't get me wrong, our chapter is good, but there might as well not be an IFC. It wouldn't really change anything if they decided to stop having that.
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06-23-2004, 09:48 AM
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AMEN!!!!!!!
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I have to agree with what's already been said, except for one thing that was said and confuses me.....
Since when was men and sex a college thing??????? LOL I know guys in their 30's who act the same way.
Pulling out a Hefeweizen and the tanning lotion. Gonna be a good day for getting a tan........
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06-23-2004, 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by greencup
naw
I've researched it, and I have formed my opinions.
Every single one I have met is loud, annoying, stuck up, judge by appearence, popularity contest, etc.
I have my opinion and you all have yours. Last year I was also invited to dinner with an old friend (who also changed very much). I could not believe how fake they were, and also the petty things they fought over.
I guess I just feel more independent (sp?) taking care of myself and forming friendships with people that I like.
I understand your opinions are different from mine, and that's just fine.
And as a side note, I volunteer at a soup kitchen and I can do charity and not be in a sorority. I also have my own connections with people all over the WORLD by talking/meeting people and traveling.
If those are reasons why being in a sorority is important, then it is not for me.
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I'm glad that you are a very independant woman. You have formed your opinion and are definitely entitled to it. You must understand, however, that you are making sweeping generalizations about people you don't really know. Before I was in a GLO, I volunteered as well. I got up at 4AM once a week to go serve breakfast to the homeless and needy -- it's a good thing, but it's not all that Greek Life is about.
It's one of those things that's very complicated. You don't really know until you try it and it's not for everyone. My mother was in a sorority, for example back in the 70's and dropped because she was having a poor experience. She said a lot of the same things you do. I know a lot of girls in sororities on my alma mater's campus who are very real people who would go out of their way to help others, do not engage in drama or superficial crap and are just generally great people. I'm positive that there are people like that in the greek system in Minnesota.
But no, no one would ever try to make the case that being in a fraternity/sorority is something that everyone should do or try. It's simply not something that works for everyone. I once thought as you did, but was given the opportunity to take part in the founding of a new chapter. I have been proven wrong and it's one of the few times that I was very glad that I was wrong.
It sounds like for the most part you're a smart, caring and generally good person. The only thing I'd recommend that you work on is your confronational style and you apparent tendancy to jump to conclusions about large groups of people based on a nonrepresentative sample of evidence. Some of the attitudes you're displaying here remind me of someone who thinks that because it was Arabs that flew planes into the twin towers that all Arabs are terrorists. Work on that.
And enjoy college, it sounds like you are enjoying yourself.. Just don't let the fact that others are enjoying themselves doing different things deter you.
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